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for the masses headline edition july 8th

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the army air forces has announced that a

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flying bist has been found and

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is now in the possession of the army if

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the game is rigged

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change the game game changer

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i occasionally think how quickly our

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differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is fade to black with your host

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jimmy church

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on the game changer radio network and

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kgra

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i need your help to get to the year

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you're listening to fate to flag with

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good evening

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fade to block

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bespoke radio for

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the masses today's tuesday january 26

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26 days into the new year

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only 339 days left

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that's right tonight we are live

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we're live from a bunker somewhere in

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the middle of beautiful downtown burbank

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california

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and i would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the united states

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hither and tither to and fro back and

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east and west north and south far and

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this is fade to black for kjcr the game

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changer network and kgra the planets

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our murals jimmy church what is cracking

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everybody how you doing

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how you doing what a beautiful day

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little nippy outside here in burbank but

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uh in a great mood

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enjoying my new haircut

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and feeling human again and all of that

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tonight on fade to black

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roy firestone unbelievable roy firestone

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is here we're going to be discussing

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tonight

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the art of talk

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that's what we are going to do more on

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that in just a bit

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very excited about tonight and then

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tomorrow night

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it's zadok ra osiris

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also here with us for the first time and

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uh

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lot of things tomorrow night and

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introduce zadok uh you know he's a radio

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host and he's got his own things going

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on and you may have

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uh listened to his show but

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uh i am introducing him to the fade to

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black audience for the first time and he

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um uh with this on the conscious life

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and which is coming up february

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month okay and you can head over to

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consciouslifeexpo.com i encourage

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everybody to do that go and get your

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passes get signed up get ready

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get your avatar on all right

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get over there i'll be hosting all

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weekend long friday through sunday

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all right now where am i

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let's uh let's just jump straight into

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it shall we

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shall we shall we do that i think we

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should oh everybody i introduced you to

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momo last night here's momo still here

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oh yeah it's gonna be good it's gonna be

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a good night tonight with roy

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um i want you to get your own crystal

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skull head over to

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einstein the crystalskull.com visit

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carolyn ford

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she is the absolute very best

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has the most amazing stuff over there so

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head over

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to einstein the crystalskall.com over at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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we have links uh promo code is

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jimmy for 10 off of your order today

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follow me on twitter

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at jchurchradio you can follow roy

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and of course we have all of the chat

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and uh you can head over to spreaker

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and kgra the planet all right

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what a what a busy day uh and a great

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and the excitement around here with

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having roy on the show tonight and what

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you know last night with anomaly um

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you know tonight with roy tomorrow night

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um uh hang on just hang on everybody

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okay i i have to do something in real

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roy firestone you can email throughout

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is fade to black questions let's get to

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all the breaking news

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this is crazy it's finally happening

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finally happening a pair of investors

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joining the first fully private flight

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flying along houston-based startup axiom

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connor and canadian investor mark pathy

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mission the pair joined former astronaut

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axiom last year signed a deal with

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elon musk company is scheduled to launch

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the 25 meter 100 foot asteroid

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let's get this show cracking today happy

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our dead guy's birthday today is moment

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their lifetime i didn't know that

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and of course thursday is another fader

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night with open lines all night long the

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call-in number you know what it is

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and right now i need to hit this river

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moon coffee i got three hours of

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exciting show coming up

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gotta keep those energy levels high

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now rivermoonwellness.com

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rivermooncoffee.com might take you

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there but it's rivermoonwellness.com and

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we have

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all of the links over at

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here we go

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tonight our guest is roy firestone

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over the years but will he listen to my

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style and ways of doing things

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probably not nope

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not worried about it though he knows

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that i've been doing this for a long

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time and he trusts

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as any professional would that have a

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decent grasp on what i'm doing and he

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has

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extended the courtesy to me as a

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broadcast professional

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to sit down and talk really looking

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forward to it by the way but

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now i'm not going to bring

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any of this up during our conversation

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tonight so i wanted to maybe enlighten

303
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all of you on a few things as you uh you

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know

305
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hear the show move along

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so i thought i'd give you a little

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background and how roy ended up on fade

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to black

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this evening and it all starts back in

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2008

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i signed up for facebook

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and as we all know um back then i was

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doing sports and that's that's what i

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wanted to do well let's say this that's

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what i wanted to do at that time

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okay but back then it was a different

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world on social media

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and back then i was just starting out

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broadcasting and most of my

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facebook you know radio connections

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were in sports and i'm still

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friends with all of those connections

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from back in the early days of facebook

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and one of them is roy firestone

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and uh it was so cool back then too as

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well because

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you know especially here in los angeles

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there is a

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a certain amount of uh sports radio

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stations and

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and it's a small community and and and

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generally speaking

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everybody knows everybody all right

334
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well roy um

335
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he was part of a facebook from the

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beginning

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and certainly was part of our little

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circle of sports radio broadcasters

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right and over the last 13 years

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i followed his post you know i commented

341
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once in a while and and generally

342
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you know we just stayed in touch but to

343
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be

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anything about me or fade to black or

345
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you know anything outside of seeing you

346
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know our post and my stuff that i do

347
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um he just knows that i've been hanging

348
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out and i'm a fellow broadcaster that

349
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pops up once in a while in his news feed

350
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that's about it but but i've been

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cruising around for 13 years

352
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and i decided to reach out and invite

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him on the show

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and i mean he knows i'm not a stranger

355
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he knows i'm not new

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to the game and he just replied within

357
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a minute or two and he's just like hey

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yep absolutely man let's do this

359
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and in a strange way i expected it

360
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because 13 years is a long time in any

361
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universe

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and you know that still means something

363
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so 10 years ago

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it just would have been impossible

365
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absolutely totally

366
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out of my league that's the truth no big

367
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deal

368
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but today today i can't wait for the

369
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conversation to start

370
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yeah and it's uh

371
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it's it's just like anything else i mean

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you don't

373
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and jump on stage with eddie van halen

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the next day

375
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that's not how it works yeah you got to

376
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give it a few years

377
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or 10 right but when you reach a certain

378
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point

379
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you know you're comfortable in yourself

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and you you understand your craft

381
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well you know when you

382
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can hang you know this

383
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and at that point that's when you want

384
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to play with the best

385
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that's just the way it is not worried

386
00:19:13,909 --> 00:19:11,440
about things just want to hang out

387
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and tonight yeah i get to hang out with

388
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roy firestone

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life is good and

390
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there's there's another reason

391
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why tonight is kind of special for me

392
00:19:29,750 --> 00:19:26,160
personally

393
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because i have said over and over again

394
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on this show over the years that

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i have studied the art of talk radio in

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the interview and i've done this

397
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for decades

398
00:19:50,150 --> 00:19:47,510
you today you can go out

399
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:50,160
ahead to amazon you can buy a usb

400
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microphone

401
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plug it into your laptop

402
00:19:59,110 --> 00:19:57,280
and now you're a broadcaster there's

403
00:20:03,110 --> 00:19:59,120
many ways you can do it

404
00:20:06,870 --> 00:20:03,120
you just cut cut stuff go to youtube

405
00:20:09,990 --> 00:20:06,880
i blog talk radio i don't know

406
00:20:11,110 --> 00:20:10,000
it's plenty of a facebook live you know

407
00:20:13,510 --> 00:20:11,120
you do whatever you want

408
00:20:15,029 --> 00:20:13,520
live stream anywhere you can go and do

409
00:20:17,110 --> 00:20:15,039
it you can now record

410
00:20:18,070 --> 00:20:17,120
you can record you can record the video

411
00:20:20,230 --> 00:20:18,080
the audio

412
00:20:21,270 --> 00:20:20,240
bring somebody in on a skype call zoom

413
00:20:23,350 --> 00:20:21,280
call

414
00:20:25,510 --> 00:20:23,360
interview whoever you want you can do it

415
00:20:28,549 --> 00:20:25,520
solo whatever you

416
00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:28,559
want to do anybody can do it

417
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,840
now but buying a usb

418
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:35,679
microphone headset

419
00:20:42,310 --> 00:20:38,720
laptop doesn't make

420
00:20:43,029 --> 00:20:42,320
you a broadcaster doesn't make you a

421
00:20:46,630 --> 00:20:43,039
seasoned

422
00:20:49,430 --> 00:20:46,640
show host you need

423
00:20:50,470 --> 00:20:49,440
to study you need to practice you need

424
00:20:53,830 --> 00:20:50,480
to put in

425
00:20:55,909 --> 00:20:53,840
the time and i remember after

426
00:20:57,190 --> 00:20:55,919
years and decades of studying and

427
00:20:59,270 --> 00:20:57,200
listening and

428
00:21:01,110 --> 00:20:59,280
wanting to get into broadcasting get

429
00:21:04,549 --> 00:21:01,120
into radio

430
00:21:05,110 --> 00:21:04,559
um even when i thought i was ready and i

431
00:21:07,990 --> 00:21:05,120
go through

432
00:21:10,149 --> 00:21:08,000
school and i do and i'm like man i am

433
00:21:14,870 --> 00:21:10,159
ready to go

434
00:21:16,710 --> 00:21:14,880
and those out there that were willing to

435
00:21:18,390 --> 00:21:16,720
you know i i just wanted to intern

436
00:21:19,990 --> 00:21:18,400
somewhere i just wanted to get my foot

437
00:21:21,270 --> 00:21:20,000
in the door and i knew that if i just

438
00:21:24,310 --> 00:21:21,280
got my foot in the door

439
00:21:27,350 --> 00:21:24,320
anywhere that i would

440
00:21:30,710 --> 00:21:27,360
get wiggle my way onto the air

441
00:21:32,470 --> 00:21:30,720
everybody could uh hopefully see

442
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:32,480
and hear what i was about and go you

443
00:21:35,990 --> 00:21:34,240
know what okay we'll give you

444
00:21:37,830 --> 00:21:36,000
we'll give you an overnight slot for a

445
00:21:40,390 --> 00:21:37,840
couple of hours

446
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:40,400
we'll put you on weekends we'll put you

447
00:21:44,549 --> 00:21:41,520
on sunday night

448
00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:44,559
but that it would eventually happen

449
00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:46,400
those people that were in the position

450
00:21:50,630 --> 00:21:48,640
to do that i think that they saw the

451
00:21:53,830 --> 00:21:50,640
diamond in the rough side of things but

452
00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:53,840
this is what they said

453
00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:57,520
two years you've got to put in

454
00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,280
two years of air time

455
00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,280
before you can cut it anywhere else

456
00:22:06,789 --> 00:22:05,600
before we will back you up and put our

457
00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,799
name

458
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:08,159
uh you know i was just like wait a

459
00:22:12,630 --> 00:22:10,840
minute what i don't have that kind of

460
00:22:16,470 --> 00:22:12,640
time

461
00:22:20,310 --> 00:22:16,480
we need to do this now man and

462
00:22:23,510 --> 00:22:20,320
now i understand what everybody

463
00:22:25,190 --> 00:22:23,520
meant it's not easy

464
00:22:28,230 --> 00:22:25,200
it's not easy you've got to put in the

465
00:22:31,270 --> 00:22:28,240
time now here i am 13 years later

466
00:22:34,470 --> 00:22:31,280
and and you know 2 000

467
00:22:37,990 --> 00:22:34,480
shows down 2 000 interviews down

468
00:22:41,029 --> 00:22:38,000
in play and i'm still

469
00:22:44,230 --> 00:22:41,039
finding myself i'm still

470
00:22:45,909 --> 00:22:44,240
getting comfortable so going out and

471
00:22:47,669 --> 00:22:45,919
buying that bluetooth microphone and

472
00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:47,679
plugging it into your laptop and going

473
00:22:51,510 --> 00:22:48,880
in again

474
00:22:53,270 --> 00:22:51,520
it doesn't make you need to put in the

475
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:53,280
time

476
00:22:57,750 --> 00:22:56,400
and that's what i did i absolutely

477
00:23:01,270 --> 00:22:57,760
studied i did

478
00:23:04,870 --> 00:23:01,280
everything that i could to learn

479
00:23:05,990 --> 00:23:04,880
from everybody you cannot learn and

480
00:23:09,510 --> 00:23:06,000
progress

481
00:23:13,029 --> 00:23:09,520
if you don't have teachers to guide you

482
00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:13,039
and for me it was studying the tapes

483
00:23:19,669 --> 00:23:16,320
studying watching

484
00:23:24,310 --> 00:23:19,679
listening to the different styles

485
00:23:26,710 --> 00:23:24,320
to the mistakes the good and the bad

486
00:23:27,909 --> 00:23:26,720
you have to do this i put in hours i put

487
00:23:31,110 --> 00:23:27,919
in days i put in

488
00:23:34,070 --> 00:23:31,120
years of intense study

489
00:23:35,350 --> 00:23:34,080
and you have to do this you've got to

490
00:23:39,350 --> 00:23:35,360
because it's an

491
00:23:43,990 --> 00:23:39,360
investment so my advice

492
00:23:45,830 --> 00:23:44,000
to all of you just don't rush into it

493
00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:45,840
you want to do a podcast you want to do

494
00:23:49,190 --> 00:23:47,039
a live radio show

495
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:49,200
you want to do you know what put in the

496
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,159
time

497
00:23:55,830 --> 00:23:53,520
put in a couple of years cut tracks

498
00:23:58,149 --> 00:23:55,840
cut this make the mistakes do everything

499
00:24:01,669 --> 00:23:58,159
but you need to find yourself

500
00:24:05,350 --> 00:24:01,679
you need to find your head

501
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:05,360
it's the only way to move forward

502
00:24:08,710 --> 00:24:08,320
but today if you're going to go back and

503
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:08,720
and

504
00:24:25,029 --> 00:24:22,000
that wants to get in the game today

505
00:24:29,510 --> 00:24:25,039
owes so much to roy

506
00:24:33,190 --> 00:24:29,520
he has and continues to show us

507
00:24:36,230 --> 00:24:33,200
how it's done now

508
00:24:39,510 --> 00:24:36,240
one last thing and i mean this

509
00:24:42,710 --> 00:24:39,520
from the bottom of my heart conversation

510
00:24:46,470 --> 00:24:44,950
it is not easy i do it for two and a

511
00:24:48,950 --> 00:24:46,480
half to three hours

512
00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:48,960
a night coast to coast four hours a

513
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:51,120
night

514
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:55,840
roy makes conversation look easy

515
00:25:01,669 --> 00:24:59,600
it is not it's not easy

516
00:25:04,549 --> 00:25:01,679
he makes it look so easy he does he

517
00:25:10,230 --> 00:25:04,559
makes it smooth

518
00:25:12,830 --> 00:25:10,240
prepared

519
00:25:14,630 --> 00:25:12,840
he does his homework he is a true

520
00:25:16,549 --> 00:25:14,640
professional

521
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,559
this is the one thing i've learned from

522
00:25:21,750 --> 00:25:18,400
him over the years

523
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:21,760
and and and it's very simple don't ever

524
00:25:26,149 --> 00:25:25,039
try to phone it in you're gonna get

525
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:26,159
caught

526
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:29,600
in

527
00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:33,520
i i i don't i prepare

528
00:25:39,269 --> 00:25:37,360
and i know that at times

529
00:25:40,950 --> 00:25:39,279
not only with myself but other

530
00:25:42,149 --> 00:25:40,960
broadcasters out there and certainly

531
00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,159
roy's another example

532
00:25:49,029 --> 00:25:45,600
of that they

533
00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:49,039
they don't seem like they have to do

534
00:25:55,350 --> 00:25:50,559
anything

535
00:25:58,470 --> 00:25:55,360
because they come prepared that's why

536
00:26:00,870 --> 00:25:58,480
that's why oh it must be easy to just

537
00:26:02,390 --> 00:26:00,880
flick on the studio light sit down put

538
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:02,400
on a pair of headphones sit in front of

539
00:26:06,230 --> 00:26:03,520
a microphone and then

540
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,240
boom three hours of content just pops

541
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:08,880
out it doesn't work that way

542
00:26:15,990 --> 00:26:12,640
it doesn't it doesn't and i remember

543
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:16,000
i i like it was yesterday

544
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:19,039
when i would see roy

545
00:26:23,990 --> 00:26:22,240
do an interview smooth and think to

546
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,000
myself man

547
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:26,559
you know i i just i want to do it like

548
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:27,120
that

549
00:26:35,190 --> 00:26:31,520
the greats out there

550
00:26:37,110 --> 00:26:35,200
have that ability i'm not sure

551
00:26:38,630 --> 00:26:37,120
there may be somebody out there that

552
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:38,640
didn't prepare they didn't do anything

553
00:26:42,549 --> 00:26:41,039
we'll talk to roy about that tonight but

554
00:26:45,590 --> 00:26:42,559
but there's just no way that you can get

555
00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:45,600
through it you can't and if you try it

556
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:53,590
seriously don't ever try to phone it in

557
00:26:59,590 --> 00:26:54,480
i don't

558
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,600
i know what you're thinking that you

559
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:01,039
know what jimmy has so much fun on the

560
00:27:04,630 --> 00:27:02,720
show he just comes in and

561
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:04,640
boom seven o'clock and the next thing

562
00:27:08,230 --> 00:27:06,080
you know it's ten o'clock three

563
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,240
hours have gone by it's just amazing

564
00:27:13,190 --> 00:27:10,320
it's just boom he just has to just

565
00:27:16,070 --> 00:27:13,200
come in and sit down it's not like that

566
00:27:20,630 --> 00:27:16,080
i start prepping for this show

567
00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:20,640
eight hours ago nine hours ago

568
00:27:27,029 --> 00:27:24,000
all the way up when you see me sit down

569
00:27:27,909 --> 00:27:27,039
at seven o'clock i am literally five

570
00:27:30,710 --> 00:27:27,919
minutes out

571
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,720
of doing a sound check and my last

572
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:32,960
little piece of show notes

573
00:27:37,029 --> 00:27:35,520
and it takes all day so think about that

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this is fade to block i'm your host

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jimmy church very excited about this

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tonight

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roy firestone is here also tomorrow

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night um

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uh zadok raw osiris is with us also

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another first time guest

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for me that are so special

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so get ready i'll be right back after

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this short break this is fade to black

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on the game changer network and kg r a

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you're listening to jimmychurchradio.com

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jimmy church radio

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all right welcome back fade to black i'm

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your host jimmy church tonight

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roy firestone he's here for the first

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time

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and we are going to discuss the art of

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talk that and so much more roy of course

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is a seven-time

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emmy award-winning and seven-time cable

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ace award-winning host interviewer

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narrator writer and producer

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as the groundbreaking original host of

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espn's legendary

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up close up close classic and up close

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prime time

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he has interviewed more than 5 000

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athletes musicians actors and political

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figures

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as well of course as scores of writers

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and filmmakers

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sports illustrated called firestone the

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best interviewer

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in the business jim murray once said roy

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roy firestone

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isn't just the best sports interviewer

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i've ever seen

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he's the best interviewer period

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big words but not limited to television

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he is also a prolific writer on the

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printed page

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and he's the author of uh two

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bestselling books up close with roy

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firestone

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and most recently don't make me cry roy

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and tonight we're going to discuss his

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latest work

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that's what i'm talking about and kobe

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and a boy

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named roy i would like to welcome for

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the first time to fade to black roy

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firestone roy good evening man how are

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you

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roy this is

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this is what we do here with a

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first-time guest

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ready

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for it let's have the disclaimer yeah

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the disclaimer is right it's just you

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and i sitting on my couch

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having a conversation as friends and

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where the conversation

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starts it starts where it ends it ends

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but we're gonna end as friends

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there you go always oh hey right on

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now listen what is um you know we

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we we set this uh show up a while ago

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now i didn't realize at the time uh

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of the significance of today

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and of course the one year um

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anniversary

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of the tragedy out there in in calabasas

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with uh kobe bryant and his daughter and

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seven other passengers

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and before i get you know the to the

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obvious

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question about that date here we are a

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year

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later how are you with

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it today where is your mind probably

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where

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most anybody who really loved him knew

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him

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you know touched by the event that

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anybody else is

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uh i think uh i did know him i did know

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him pretty well

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i interviewed him seven times i like to

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think i had a pretty good relationship

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with him and i'll tell you

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the first time i met him in a second but

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you know

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sports world grieves and then it moves

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on but in los angeles

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um the grieving continues and it's

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interesting to know jimmy that

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uh vanessa bryant told the lakers radio

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flagship station

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the lead station yesterday that it

786
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didn't want

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any shows programmed remembering kobe or

788
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anything like that which surprised me a

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little bit to be honest with you

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but it was because she doesn't want to

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relive it again and i don't blame her i

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understand that she lost her daughter

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she lost her husband

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and they honored it so they didn't do

795
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any programming today that remembered

796
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kobe which is kind of interesting to me

797
00:37:06,630 --> 00:37:02,880
i did in my

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my facebook posts i i did want to um

799
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talk a little bit about it i will tell

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you a little bit about this

801
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my background with kobe uh i think we

802
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may have

803
00:37:17,910 --> 00:37:16,320
mentioned this before maybe i did to you

804
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or to someone else but

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certainly i i've talked about this and

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00:37:23,430 --> 00:37:21,599
that is

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the first time i met him he was not even

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18 years old

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and uh he he he came on to this this our

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remote set and on a rainy day

811
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and i remember lightning hit the

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building blew out our

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lights for the interview for the camera

814
00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,320
interview

815
00:37:44,550 --> 00:37:42,240
and like my crew said hey it's going to

816
00:37:46,630 --> 00:37:44,560
take us two hours to get new lights

817
00:37:48,870 --> 00:37:46,640
so you got to tell kobe this this this

818
00:37:50,390 --> 00:37:48,880
is a 17 and a half 18 year old kid

819
00:37:52,230 --> 00:37:50,400
and i said well kobe do you want to

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leave and come back he says no i'm not

821
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coming back

822
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:55,599
i said oh god this is great i lost my

823
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interview he says no i'm staying

824
00:38:02,550 --> 00:38:00,640
and he stayed for stayed with us for two

825
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hours and 20 minutes because before we

826
00:38:07,270 --> 00:38:04,079
got our lights back

827
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:07,280
talked to us in italian spoke to us uh

828
00:38:11,190 --> 00:38:08,320
in fluid attack

829
00:38:13,190 --> 00:38:11,200
affluent italian also what it was like

830
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:13,200
to grow up in italy as a little boy

831
00:38:19,270 --> 00:38:16,560
being a fan of milan and soccer

832
00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:19,280
and talking about his dreams and i wish

833
00:38:21,910 --> 00:38:20,400
the cameras were rolling

834
00:38:23,510 --> 00:38:21,920
even there even though there was no

835
00:38:26,950 --> 00:38:23,520
picture because it was too dark

836
00:38:28,870 --> 00:38:26,960
right um and that really struck me

837
00:38:30,069 --> 00:38:28,880
because he also wanted to know about

838
00:38:32,550 --> 00:38:30,079
things you wanted to knock

839
00:38:34,069 --> 00:38:32,560
to talk about how the how the camera

840
00:38:36,069 --> 00:38:34,079
worked and

841
00:38:37,990 --> 00:38:36,079
who does the editing and how do you edit

842
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:38,000
and i realized

843
00:38:41,589 --> 00:38:40,160
years later that this was a kid that was

844
00:38:44,310 --> 00:38:41,599
really unique

845
00:38:46,069 --> 00:38:44,320
because he wanted to learn and he wanted

846
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to learn about everything

847
00:38:49,190 --> 00:38:48,880
and i believe the tragedy of course is

848
00:38:55,349 --> 00:38:49,200
for

849
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:55,359
one family or another but the other

850
00:38:59,190 --> 00:38:56,400
tragedy of course

851
00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:59,200
and it's it's equally significant is we

852
00:39:02,150 --> 00:39:00,079
never got to see

853
00:39:03,109 --> 00:39:02,160
what he was going to become outside of

854
00:39:05,030 --> 00:39:03,119
the game

855
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:05,040
and i believe that kobe bryant would

856
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:06,960
have been a leader

857
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:09,520
in women's sports he could have been a

858
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,000
commissioner in the wnba say

859
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,320
he could have certainly had a part

860
00:39:18,470 --> 00:39:15,920
ownership of the lakers

861
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:18,480
he had a film a burgeoning film

862
00:39:22,390 --> 00:39:19,280
directing

863
00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:22,400
and producing um career as

864
00:39:26,470 --> 00:39:24,320
executive producer he won an academy

865
00:39:27,270 --> 00:39:26,480
award people may or may not remember

866
00:39:29,589 --> 00:39:27,280
that

867
00:39:31,670 --> 00:39:29,599
so i think obviously it's tragic on so

868
00:39:32,630 --> 00:39:31,680
many levels so many families touched as

869
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:32,640
you mentioned before

870
00:39:38,470 --> 00:39:35,680
nine total or killed but

871
00:39:39,430 --> 00:39:38,480
we never got to see what kobe bryant

872
00:39:41,910 --> 00:39:39,440
might have been

873
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:41,920
as an an older man and we and what he

874
00:39:45,270 --> 00:39:42,960
would have done

875
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:45,280
and i likened it to buddy holly losing

876
00:39:48,150 --> 00:39:46,240
his life in

877
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:48,160
iowa when the plane crashed the day the

878
00:39:51,829 --> 00:39:49,359
music died

879
00:39:54,630 --> 00:39:51,839
don mclean's famous lyrics song where

880
00:39:56,790 --> 00:39:54,640
the lyrics is really about buddy holly

881
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:56,800
we never got to see he was only 22 at

882
00:40:02,069 --> 00:39:58,800
least kobe was about 40

883
00:40:02,470 --> 00:40:02,079
but but you know but it was a similar

884
00:40:04,390 --> 00:40:02,480
thing

885
00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:04,400
in the sense that buddy holly we never

886
00:40:08,230 --> 00:40:06,240
knew what was going to become of him

887
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:08,240
he died tragically with other people as

888
00:40:12,950 --> 00:40:10,000
well jb richardson

889
00:40:15,190 --> 00:40:12,960
and richie valens but this was a this

890
00:40:17,270 --> 00:40:15,200
was a devastating loss in sports

891
00:40:19,270 --> 00:40:17,280
so in answer to your question yeah i

892
00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:19,280
feel it it impacts me

893
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:22,160
um but so do millions of other people

894
00:40:25,750 --> 00:40:22,880
feel it too

895
00:40:26,710 --> 00:40:25,760
so i'm not unique in that area he he i

896
00:40:30,150 --> 00:40:26,720
think for

897
00:40:32,150 --> 00:40:30,160
most of us uh including yourself

898
00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:32,160
he hadn't grown up yet he still looked

899
00:40:35,670 --> 00:40:33,280
like a kid

900
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:35,680
right yep yeah and and that was part of

901
00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:36,720
the impact

902
00:40:40,309 --> 00:40:39,680
even for you you you meet him when he's

903
00:40:43,430 --> 00:40:40,319
18

904
00:40:43,910 --> 00:40:43,440
he's 40. he's still the kid to all of

905
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:43,920
this

906
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,560
sure a lot of life to be led uh i'll

907
00:40:48,870 --> 00:40:47,920
tell you there's some interesting things

908
00:40:50,150 --> 00:40:48,880
i'll give you a couple of quick

909
00:40:52,230 --> 00:40:50,160
anecdotes about kobe i

910
00:40:53,750 --> 00:40:52,240
i said i interviewed about seven i think

911
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,760
maybe eight times

912
00:40:56,790 --> 00:40:55,200
one night we were doing interview and i

913
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:56,800
had to go all the way to memphis

914
00:41:02,950 --> 00:40:59,920
to do interview and um

915
00:41:04,630 --> 00:41:02,960
as i'm doing this interview before we're

916
00:41:08,870 --> 00:41:04,640
setting up and again

917
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:08,880
there's no kobe um and he can't

918
00:41:12,069 --> 00:41:10,400
are you are you you can hear me right

919
00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:12,079
i'm getting another call i don't know if

920
00:41:14,790 --> 00:41:13,359
this is

921
00:41:17,349 --> 00:41:14,800
it's not interference it's been

922
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,359
interfering is it just a little clip

923
00:41:21,349 --> 00:41:19,359
here or there but uh

924
00:41:22,630 --> 00:41:21,359
we'll get through it sorry about that

925
00:41:25,430 --> 00:41:22,640
but um

926
00:41:26,790 --> 00:41:25,440
there's no kobe and it's 30 minutes and

927
00:41:28,230 --> 00:41:26,800
now it's 45 minutes

928
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,240
and this is you know much later in his

929
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:30,960
career now it's an hour and i'm going oh

930
00:41:34,630 --> 00:41:33,280
god it's friday night i'm in memphis we

931
00:41:35,430 --> 00:41:34,640
flew all the way in for this interview

932
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:35,440
he's

933
00:41:42,230 --> 00:41:40,880
but he wasn't blowing us off what he was

934
00:41:44,550 --> 00:41:42,240
doing and this is so

935
00:41:46,069 --> 00:41:44,560
kobe he was at this place called the

936
00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:46,079
pyramid which is the arena where the

937
00:41:50,550 --> 00:41:47,119
memphis grizzlies

938
00:41:50,790 --> 00:41:50,560
play right at taking 2 000 jump shots in

939
00:41:54,790 --> 00:41:50,800
an

940
00:41:55,750 --> 00:41:54,800
empty arena on a friday night with one

941
00:41:58,230 --> 00:41:55,760
other person

942
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,240
he came to our set dripping wet he says

943
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,280
i'm sorry i'm late

944
00:42:02,309 --> 00:42:00,960
i didn't like the way i shot last night

945
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,319
so i just took two thousand

946
00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:04,160
he wasn't looking for some chick or

947
00:42:08,710 --> 00:42:05,599
something he was

948
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,720
out there working and that's the thing

949
00:42:13,589 --> 00:42:11,280
about him he always wanted to be better

950
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,599
and i was not not only not offended i

951
00:42:16,150 --> 00:42:15,359
was i i did the first part of my

952
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:16,160
interview

953
00:42:22,630 --> 00:42:19,359
about his discipline and his ethic

954
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:22,640
and his athletic integrity and uh it was

955
00:42:25,270 --> 00:42:24,079
a fascinating interview but that was

956
00:42:27,670 --> 00:42:25,280
just another story

957
00:42:28,470 --> 00:42:27,680
you know he had his had his darkness we

958
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:28,480
know that

959
00:42:31,589 --> 00:42:30,480
it's been well chronicled he was

960
00:42:34,230 --> 00:42:31,599
involved in an

961
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,240
issue that uh was never adjudicated

962
00:42:39,510 --> 00:42:36,480
there was no verdict in the trial of

963
00:42:42,550 --> 00:42:39,520
accused rape um he denied it

964
00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,560
but uh they settled it and

965
00:42:46,230 --> 00:42:44,720
for the rest of his life at least the

966
00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:46,240
way i felt

967
00:42:50,390 --> 00:42:49,839
uh it was transpiring kobe had a kind of

968
00:42:52,790 --> 00:42:50,400
lament

969
00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:52,800
a kind of deep regret and how he let

970
00:42:57,109 --> 00:42:54,880
everybody down including his wife

971
00:42:58,630 --> 00:42:57,119
and he believed that he was the cause of

972
00:43:01,910 --> 00:42:58,640
one of his

973
00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,920
life's one of her miscarriages and uh he

974
00:43:05,990 --> 00:43:03,839
really really believed that it was

975
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:06,000
because of his irresponsibility

976
00:43:09,990 --> 00:43:07,760
and he was very emotional about it and

977
00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:10,000
talking about it but

978
00:43:14,390 --> 00:43:12,800
he's gone uh we will really never see a

979
00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:14,400
player quite like him again

980
00:43:17,589 --> 00:43:15,760
i don't think i mean you could talk

981
00:43:18,710 --> 00:43:17,599
about steph curry and you could talk

982
00:43:20,230 --> 00:43:18,720
about lebron

983
00:43:21,750 --> 00:43:20,240
but there was something singularly

984
00:43:23,430 --> 00:43:21,760
unique to kobe bryant

985
00:43:25,829 --> 00:43:23,440
and the last thing i want to say jimmy

986
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:25,839
is the first time i interviewed him i i

987
00:43:31,430 --> 00:43:28,160
was struck by how much his voice

988
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,440
physically audibly i should say

989
00:43:35,270 --> 00:43:33,599
reminded me of michael jordan he sounded

990
00:43:36,390 --> 00:43:35,280
like michael jordan his voice sounded

991
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:36,400
like michael jordan

992
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,079
so i said at one point in the interview

993
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:40,079
i said you know kobe

994
00:43:43,670 --> 00:43:41,839
you're a young kid but you have a deep

995
00:43:44,390 --> 00:43:43,680
voice like michael jordan he says by

996
00:43:46,950 --> 00:43:44,400
design

997
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:46,960
i said what he said i always i'm

998
00:43:51,670 --> 00:43:48,400
impersonating

999
00:43:54,150 --> 00:43:51,680
because

1000
00:43:56,069 --> 00:43:54,160
i want to basically shadow his entire

1001
00:43:57,030 --> 00:43:56,079
career i want to be everything he was

1002
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,040
and more

1003
00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,280
and he watched every film clip he

1004
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,200
watched every highlight watched every

1005
00:44:06,950 --> 00:44:03,599
interview he could get on the internet

1006
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,960
and of course watched him on live tv too

1007
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:09,680
because he wanted to not just be like

1008
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:10,400
mike

1009
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:16,880
and and i want to ask you about that

1010
00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:20,839
personally um with you

1011
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:23,520
i i i have to study

1012
00:44:26,710 --> 00:44:25,839
i have to study those that came before

1013
00:44:29,670 --> 00:44:26,720
me

1014
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:29,680
um and and and work on the art work on

1015
00:44:33,030 --> 00:44:31,119
the art of talk i've been doing it for a

1016
00:44:36,069 --> 00:44:33,040
long time but you

1017
00:44:38,950 --> 00:44:36,079
uh who did you look up to and and

1018
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,960
did you in the beginning did you

1019
00:44:43,270 --> 00:44:39,920
accidentally

1020
00:44:44,630 --> 00:44:43,280
imitate somebody else oh yeah

1021
00:44:46,230 --> 00:44:44,640
well you know it's funny you said that

1022
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:46,240
because you know as you know i'm i'm an

1023
00:44:50,230 --> 00:44:47,359
impersonator i do

1024
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:50,240
uh celebrity impressions and for much of

1025
00:44:53,910 --> 00:44:51,839
my early part of my career i was really

1026
00:44:56,710 --> 00:44:53,920
trying to impersonate a sportscaster

1027
00:44:58,470 --> 00:44:56,720
um obviously i do how it goes hello

1028
00:44:59,109 --> 00:44:58,480
again everybody how would you know that

1029
00:45:02,230 --> 00:44:59,119
kind of thing

1030
00:45:03,190 --> 00:45:02,240
right not the voice i had as i was

1031
00:45:06,950 --> 00:45:03,200
impersonating a

1032
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:06,960
everybody i mean

1033
00:45:11,910 --> 00:45:09,920
maybe a little bit of not not literally

1034
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:11,920
the impersonation but the style of

1035
00:45:15,190 --> 00:45:14,079
people like jack whitaker who i thought

1036
00:45:18,230 --> 00:45:15,200
were great

1037
00:45:21,190 --> 00:45:18,240
i i thought that uh haywood hale bruin

1038
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:21,200
uh was a was a great announcer type i

1039
00:45:25,910 --> 00:45:21,520
like

1040
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:25,920
king which who i'm sure we'll talk about

1041
00:45:30,309 --> 00:45:27,680
in a few moments

1042
00:45:32,150 --> 00:45:30,319
was a tremendous interviewer ted koppel

1043
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:32,160
much later in my career

1044
00:45:35,349 --> 00:45:34,400
but these were people i really looked up

1045
00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,359
to and

1046
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,240
as you said you study and while you

1047
00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:39,200
don't want to

1048
00:45:43,109 --> 00:45:41,280
completely ape somebody else and try to

1049
00:45:46,309 --> 00:45:43,119
be exactly the way they are

1050
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:46,319
i don't think i could i i admired

1051
00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:48,560
a lot i admired my friend bob costas who

1052
00:45:53,349 --> 00:45:50,240
remains a close friend of mine

1053
00:45:55,109 --> 00:45:53,359
and how he he did interviews i never

1054
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:55,119
ever thought i was the best interviewer

1055
00:45:57,670 --> 00:45:56,079
a lot of people think

1056
00:45:59,270 --> 00:45:57,680
said i was i'm very flattered by that

1057
00:45:59,990 --> 00:45:59,280
sports illustrated was just doing a

1058
00:46:02,470 --> 00:46:00,000
thing today about

1059
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:02,480
that they said i was and i'm flattered

1060
00:46:05,190 --> 00:46:03,040
by it

1061
00:46:07,190 --> 00:46:05,200
i don't think i was the best i don't

1062
00:46:09,270 --> 00:46:07,200
think i was the luckiest either but i

1063
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:09,280
do think i was somewhat of the more

1064
00:46:13,750 --> 00:46:10,640
opportunistic

1065
00:46:16,870 --> 00:46:13,760
interviewer in that when i got my show

1066
00:46:20,390 --> 00:46:16,880
there was one of one there wasn't 800

1067
00:46:23,750 --> 00:46:20,400
000 uh with all due respect skype shows

1068
00:46:26,790 --> 00:46:23,760
zoom shows internet shows uh

1069
00:46:27,910 --> 00:46:26,800
you know podcasts i was one of one and

1070
00:46:30,550 --> 00:46:27,920
so every guest that

1071
00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:30,560
i got wanted to come on the show wanted

1072
00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:32,720
to be interviewed by me and i saw

1073
00:46:39,430 --> 00:46:36,560
sort of dressed myself up in my career

1074
00:46:41,270 --> 00:46:39,440
by their fame and it worked and i did

1075
00:46:44,230 --> 00:46:41,280
five thousand interviews

1076
00:46:45,670 --> 00:46:44,240
and not everyone i'm super proud of some

1077
00:46:47,190 --> 00:46:45,680
you know or have sources of

1078
00:46:50,069 --> 00:46:47,200
embarrassments but

1079
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,079
largely when you do 5 000 of anything

1080
00:46:55,190 --> 00:46:52,160
you're going to screw up a lot and i did

1081
00:46:56,710 --> 00:46:55,200
and i learned i think now

1082
00:46:58,790 --> 00:46:56,720
i'm a better interviewer than i will

1083
00:47:02,230 --> 00:46:58,800
ever be in my life because of my

1084
00:47:04,550 --> 00:47:02,240
my life experiences and um so

1085
00:47:06,550 --> 00:47:04,560
and answer your question lots of people

1086
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,560
were inspiring to me

1087
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:08,000
but i think we're probably gonna end up

1088
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,359
talking a little bit about larry king

1089
00:47:14,470 --> 00:47:11,359
who just passed away two days ago

1090
00:47:17,030 --> 00:47:14,480
and um i read your and

1091
00:47:17,589 --> 00:47:17,040
let me just say this uh out of the gate

1092
00:47:21,829 --> 00:47:17,599
roy

1093
00:47:24,150 --> 00:47:21,839
uh you and i uh we both know i've been

1094
00:47:25,190 --> 00:47:24,160
engaging with you for 13 years now on

1095
00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,200
facebook

1096
00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:28,800
and and i read your stuff you have

1097
00:47:37,670 --> 00:47:33,839
lately um started to really open up over

1098
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:37,680
last couple of years and

1099
00:47:41,589 --> 00:47:40,400
and i respect that i cannot wait for

1100
00:47:45,030 --> 00:47:41,599
your next post

1101
00:47:45,670 --> 00:47:45,040
i'm just letting you know but that being

1102
00:47:49,910 --> 00:47:45,680
said

1103
00:47:51,589 --> 00:47:49,920
larry king's passing and i want to go

1104
00:47:53,510 --> 00:47:51,599
back and address

1105
00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,520
some of those not necessarily about

1106
00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:55,440
larry we'll get to that in a second

1107
00:48:02,710 --> 00:47:59,359
but you talked about preparing

1108
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:02,720
and i thought about that an awful lot

1109
00:48:06,150 --> 00:48:05,680
your take on it but then i've heard you

1110
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:06,160
say

1111
00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:09,040
over the years that although you don't

1112
00:48:13,349 --> 00:48:11,440
necessarily have extensive notes

1113
00:48:14,470 --> 00:48:13,359
in front of you i've never written a

1114
00:48:17,589 --> 00:48:14,480
question down

1115
00:48:18,630 --> 00:48:17,599
right but i have put a word down so i

1116
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:18,640
would forget

1117
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:20,319
oh i gotta ask him at the widow of the

1118
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:22,720
brother i gotta oh there was that story

1119
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,079
where he lost his sight

1120
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,720
you know i write stuff down to remind me

1121
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:28,400
but i'll never write a question

1122
00:48:31,750 --> 00:48:30,400
i get a lot of young people ask me you

1123
00:48:33,829 --> 00:48:31,760
know what's the number one thing

1124
00:48:35,030 --> 00:48:33,839
number one thing is stay engaged stay

1125
00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,040
engaged listen

1126
00:48:39,349 --> 00:48:37,760
carefully um don't be thinking of your

1127
00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:39,359
next question while someone's giving you

1128
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:41,280
the answer

1129
00:48:45,349 --> 00:48:44,079
and sure as hell if you if you are if

1130
00:48:46,549 --> 00:48:45,359
you're thinking of your next question

1131
00:48:47,670 --> 00:48:46,559
while they're giving an answer it'll be

1132
00:48:49,589 --> 00:48:47,680
something like

1133
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:49,599
you know and that's why i always felt

1134
00:48:53,750 --> 00:48:50,880
that it was too poor

1135
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,760
to even play organized ball your next

1136
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:55,359
question is did you ever feel like maybe

1137
00:48:58,710 --> 00:48:56,880
you were too poor to play

1138
00:48:59,990 --> 00:48:58,720
that's the crap that's going to happen

1139
00:49:01,589 --> 00:49:00,000
to you if you're not listening

1140
00:49:03,190 --> 00:49:01,599
and it happened to me a lot early in my

1141
00:49:05,349 --> 00:49:03,200
career you you get

1142
00:49:07,910 --> 00:49:05,359
ready to have the the next question

1143
00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:07,920
without listening to the previous answer

1144
00:49:10,950 --> 00:49:10,240
but i never wrote i never wrote

1145
00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:10,960
interview

1146
00:49:16,390 --> 00:49:14,240
questions out um i did want to have to

1147
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,400
remind my mind not to forget

1148
00:49:20,630 --> 00:49:19,440
three or four anecdotes but always stay

1149
00:49:21,990 --> 00:49:20,640
engaged

1150
00:49:23,990 --> 00:49:22,000
that's more important i think one of the

1151
00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:24,000
things that larry king did

1152
00:49:27,349 --> 00:49:26,240
very very well and larry is my friend

1153
00:49:30,069 --> 00:49:27,359
and you know

1154
00:49:31,190 --> 00:49:30,079
i i grieve with people who loved larry

1155
00:49:34,549 --> 00:49:31,200
and knew larry

1156
00:49:37,430 --> 00:49:34,559
uh he had eight marriages and seven

1157
00:49:39,190 --> 00:49:37,440
seven marriages eight whipped to two

1158
00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:39,200
eight total times and married

1159
00:49:42,950 --> 00:49:40,720
one woman twice so it was eight

1160
00:49:45,910 --> 00:49:42,960
marriages effectively

1161
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:45,920
but he also lost his son and he lost his

1162
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:47,599
daughter and he got a divorce

1163
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:50,960
all within a few weeks in this past year

1164
00:49:54,950 --> 00:49:53,280
so it was really kind of a sad tragic

1165
00:49:58,710 --> 00:49:54,960
ending for him

1166
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:58,720
was a curious guy and i think if you ask

1167
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,440
me

1168
00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,280
if a long form interview and i don't

1169
00:50:04,710 --> 00:50:02,960
mean a sideline interview where you got

1170
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,720
30 seconds to ask the coach what kind of

1171
00:50:06,950 --> 00:50:05,839
offense they're going to play in the

1172
00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:06,960
second half

1173
00:50:12,470 --> 00:50:10,000
i'm talking a long form interview you

1174
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:12,480
you really better be curious and you

1175
00:50:15,910 --> 00:50:13,359
better

1176
00:50:17,270 --> 00:50:15,920
have some ideas of what you want to do

1177
00:50:20,390 --> 00:50:17,280
tell the story

1178
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,400
as best you can but remember that you

1179
00:50:24,309 --> 00:50:22,880
must stay engaged you must listen to

1180
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:24,319
what and you know people say well

1181
00:50:27,589 --> 00:50:25,520
there's some bad interviews yeah there

1182
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:27,599
there are so called bad interviews

1183
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:30,800
but i like to think that at my best

1184
00:50:37,109 --> 00:50:34,079
when things were working best for me my

1185
00:50:39,109 --> 00:50:37,119
interview guest was someone who was

1186
00:50:41,910 --> 00:50:39,119
enjoying the conversation

1187
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:41,920
and was willing and to reveal something

1188
00:50:45,349 --> 00:50:43,359
of themselves

1189
00:50:47,190 --> 00:50:45,359
that they wouldn't in a short sound bite

1190
00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:47,200
and that is what my friend

1191
00:50:51,270 --> 00:50:49,520
is missing in media these days we're

1192
00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:51,280
looking at sound bites and we're not

1193
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:52,800
looking at conversation an

1194
00:50:57,430 --> 00:50:55,599
in-depth interviewing and not just

1195
00:50:59,030 --> 00:50:57,440
sports by the way and everything

1196
00:51:01,030 --> 00:50:59,040
and i think we have short attention

1197
00:51:02,710 --> 00:51:01,040
spans now i think young people

1198
00:51:04,549 --> 00:51:02,720
and all kinds of people don't have the

1199
00:51:06,790 --> 00:51:04,559
patience to listen to an interview

1200
00:51:09,270 --> 00:51:06,800
but boy when larry king was at the top

1201
00:51:10,870 --> 00:51:09,280
of his game particularly in mutual radio

1202
00:51:13,190 --> 00:51:10,880
on the overnight show i don't know if

1203
00:51:14,630 --> 00:51:13,200
you remember that he was spectacular i

1204
00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,640
thought he was better on radio than he

1205
00:51:17,430 --> 00:51:15,839
was at cnn

1206
00:51:18,950 --> 00:51:17,440
and i told him that i knew larry since i

1207
00:51:21,430 --> 00:51:18,960
was 15 years old

1208
00:51:22,069 --> 00:51:21,440
and he ra he helped raise me in the

1209
00:51:25,430 --> 00:51:22,079
broadcast

1210
00:51:28,390 --> 00:51:25,440
realm and i'm very grateful for that

1211
00:51:30,870 --> 00:51:28,400
you know he had his uh he had his

1212
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:30,880
piccadillos like everybody does

1213
00:51:37,670 --> 00:51:34,240
but uh larry was a sterling interviewer

1214
00:51:41,589 --> 00:51:37,680
when he was on his game which was

1215
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:41,599
most of the time now uh

1216
00:51:45,910 --> 00:51:44,079
i just want to comment on this this

1217
00:51:49,030 --> 00:51:45,920
conversation isn't about me

1218
00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:49,040
but i i worked for vin scully for about

1219
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:50,480
two years

1220
00:51:53,589 --> 00:51:52,960
and which you probably know about but

1221
00:52:00,309 --> 00:51:53,599
the

1222
00:52:04,710 --> 00:52:00,319
i'm in school for broadcast right

1223
00:52:07,510 --> 00:52:04,720
and i said so uh so vin uh

1224
00:52:08,870 --> 00:52:07,520
you know i want to be a sportscaster and

1225
00:52:12,309 --> 00:52:08,880
you know what is

1226
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:12,319
his answer was good luck

1227
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,359
yeah and uh

1228
00:52:18,470 --> 00:52:17,520
and but there was something that i

1229
00:52:20,870 --> 00:52:18,480
learned from him

1230
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:20,880
just like you from and i want to share

1231
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:22,480
this with everybody

1232
00:52:28,390 --> 00:52:25,839
i would uh i would uh pick up vin

1233
00:52:30,549 --> 00:52:28,400
at his house at about one in the

1234
00:52:32,069 --> 00:52:30,559
afternoon now he lived in two houses as

1235
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:32,079
you know he was out in

1236
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:34,400
a sherwood country club for a while and

1237
00:52:38,069 --> 00:52:36,079
then moved to hidden hills

1238
00:52:40,030 --> 00:52:38,079
i would pick him up at 1 pm we would

1239
00:52:43,030 --> 00:52:40,040
drive to dodger stadium

1240
00:52:48,069 --> 00:52:43,040
1pm okay he

1241
00:52:50,950 --> 00:52:48,079
is prepping he works all the the

1242
00:52:51,510 --> 00:52:50,960
the game's not going to start until 7.

1243
00:52:54,309 --> 00:52:51,520
and

1244
00:52:55,349 --> 00:52:54,319
it's not going to end until 9 30 or 10

1245
00:52:58,549 --> 00:52:55,359
o'clock that night

1246
00:53:01,430 --> 00:52:58,559
if there is an extra innings

1247
00:53:03,510 --> 00:53:01,440
his work ethic and i was there to

1248
00:53:06,870 --> 00:53:03,520
witness it he didn't take a nap

1249
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:06,880
right he went full circuit and we would

1250
00:53:09,430 --> 00:53:07,680
uh

1251
00:53:11,030 --> 00:53:09,440
you know i would take him home and we

1252
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:11,040
would talk about the game and things in

1253
00:53:15,670 --> 00:53:12,319
the car and he was

1254
00:53:17,990 --> 00:53:15,680
always on his game

1255
00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:18,000
his work at work ethic was incredible

1256
00:53:21,990 --> 00:53:20,000
and it taught me so much

1257
00:53:23,270 --> 00:53:22,000
you know and and he didn't take anything

1258
00:53:25,670 --> 00:53:23,280
for granted it was

1259
00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:25,680
that's the one thing i i walked away

1260
00:53:29,349 --> 00:53:26,880
from vin with

1261
00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:29,359
i believe that there are people in this

1262
00:53:33,589 --> 00:53:31,599
industry who will draft

1263
00:53:34,950 --> 00:53:33,599
off of what they had done earlier in

1264
00:53:37,349 --> 00:53:34,960
their career

1265
00:53:38,150 --> 00:53:37,359
uh that is to say they they they're

1266
00:53:42,230 --> 00:53:38,160
they're

1267
00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,240
resting on their laurels or whatever you

1268
00:53:44,630 --> 00:53:44,240
want to call it or they're looking back

1269
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:44,640
and

1270
00:53:53,750 --> 00:53:51,839
i deserve this job now uh i believe that

1271
00:53:55,510 --> 00:53:53,760
never ever occurred to vince kelly i

1272
00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:55,520
think every broadcast was

1273
00:53:58,549 --> 00:53:57,280
equally as important as his first

1274
00:54:01,670 --> 00:53:58,559
broadcast

1275
00:54:02,470 --> 00:54:01,680
um there's another guy who i i believe

1276
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,480
painted

1277
00:54:06,150 --> 00:54:04,960
real pictures with with his words and

1278
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:06,160
his voice

1279
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:08,319
and set the drama and knew exactly when

1280
00:54:11,670 --> 00:54:09,520
to get in and get out

1281
00:54:13,349 --> 00:54:11,680
knew it had when to tell a story what to

1282
00:54:15,430 --> 00:54:13,359
drop out of the story with the

1283
00:54:16,870 --> 00:54:15,440
and not to get lost in the story ahead

1284
00:54:19,990 --> 00:54:16,880
of the ball game

1285
00:54:20,470 --> 00:54:20,000
he had a great rhythm to him but you you

1286
00:54:23,750 --> 00:54:20,480
said it

1287
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:23,760
best he really really prepared and he

1288
00:54:28,870 --> 00:54:25,680
really had a great work ethic

1289
00:54:31,109 --> 00:54:28,880
that lasted 67

1290
00:54:32,790 --> 00:54:31,119
years as a broadcaster with the dodgers

1291
00:54:35,829 --> 00:54:32,800
that's incredible

1292
00:54:36,470 --> 00:54:35,839
in the mic at the microphone 67 years at

1293
00:54:38,710 --> 00:54:36,480
anything

1294
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:38,720
let alone at the microphone where things

1295
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:40,880
are changing people are younger

1296
00:54:44,069 --> 00:54:42,720
the game is changing there's too many

1297
00:54:47,190 --> 00:54:44,079
different uh

1298
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,200
cultural impacts that are going on uh

1299
00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:49,359
on a day-to-day basis and you while

1300
00:54:53,270 --> 00:54:51,440
he'll never was never the hippest guy in

1301
00:54:55,109 --> 00:54:53,280
the room but he didn't want to be

1302
00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:55,119
because he wasn't choosing to be hip he

1303
00:54:59,109 --> 00:54:56,400
was choosing just to be

1304
00:54:59,750 --> 00:54:59,119
effective and be the best he could be

1305
00:55:01,589 --> 00:54:59,760
and

1306
00:55:03,349 --> 00:55:01,599
i really could tell you that even in the

1307
00:55:05,750 --> 00:55:03,359
last three years oh yeah

1308
00:55:07,349 --> 00:55:05,760
he made a mistake or two or he tripped

1309
00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:07,359
up on a couple of things here and there

1310
00:55:11,670 --> 00:55:09,359
maybe got a first name wrong

1311
00:55:13,190 --> 00:55:11,680
but i'm telling you you're in your 80s

1312
00:55:15,589 --> 00:55:13,200
at the microphone

1313
00:55:16,870 --> 00:55:15,599
for a bait a baseball game where you

1314
00:55:19,030 --> 00:55:16,880
have to fill

1315
00:55:20,069 --> 00:55:19,040
in in addition to the play-by-play

1316
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:20,079
literally three

1317
00:55:23,750 --> 00:55:21,599
three and a half hours and most of the

1318
00:55:32,829 --> 00:55:23,760
time he worked by himself

1319
00:55:32,839 --> 00:55:55,910
have

1320
00:56:01,430 --> 00:55:59,670
doing a game and still being as good

1321
00:56:02,950 --> 00:56:01,440
as just about anyone else in the

1322
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:02,960
profession

1323
00:56:07,750 --> 00:56:05,839
and he did it over a period of 67 years

1324
00:56:11,349 --> 00:56:07,760
incredible

1325
00:56:15,190 --> 00:56:11,359
did you uh did you ever lock down a

1326
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:15,200
impression i tried you know

1327
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:18,319
jimmy what a marvelous story i could

1328
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,440
tell

1329
00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:21,920
that's about as far as i could get but

1330
00:56:25,910 --> 00:56:23,040
the thing about

1331
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:25,920
vin was she was very he had a very

1332
00:56:29,349 --> 00:56:27,440
unique voice

1333
00:56:30,470 --> 00:56:29,359
and he had that kind of a kind of a

1334
00:56:33,670 --> 00:56:30,480
strange

1335
00:56:35,109 --> 00:56:33,680
speech pattern that made him you know

1336
00:56:36,789 --> 00:56:35,119
what you really think about it john

1337
00:56:37,910 --> 00:56:36,799
miller the voice of the giants and

1338
00:56:39,190 --> 00:56:37,920
before that the orioles just a

1339
00:56:41,430 --> 00:56:39,200
tremendous spin skill

1340
00:56:43,109 --> 00:56:41,440
and so does bob custis i might add but

1341
00:56:45,829 --> 00:56:43,119
he was not a guy that you was too

1342
00:56:47,990 --> 00:56:45,839
easy to parody how would cussell was he

1343
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:48,000
see the parody because of the way he

1344
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:48,640
talked

1345
00:56:51,990 --> 00:56:50,720
or kate jackson you know i get about a

1346
00:56:54,069 --> 00:56:52,000
kitchen you know that kind of thing

1347
00:56:55,270 --> 00:56:54,079
right that's easy but vince scully was

1348
00:56:58,630 --> 00:56:55,280
hard to parody

1349
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:58,640
um and i i i definitely

1350
00:57:02,309 --> 00:57:01,119
love to listen to him his voice was very

1351
00:57:04,630 --> 00:57:02,319
soothing to me

1352
00:57:06,390 --> 00:57:04,640
and there was it was such a he was never

1353
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:06,400
rushed he was never hyped

1354
00:57:09,910 --> 00:57:08,559
he was never a hype guy he was never a

1355
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:09,920
homer which he

1356
00:57:13,030 --> 00:57:12,160
hated homers hated people who was

1357
00:57:15,349 --> 00:57:13,040
constantly

1358
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:15,359
plugging the team come on guys we got to

1359
00:57:18,470 --> 00:57:16,480
get some runs here

1360
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:18,480
he never did that stuff he hated that

1361
00:57:22,069 --> 00:57:19,760
stuff uh

1362
00:57:25,589 --> 00:57:22,079
harry carey was different harry kerry

1363
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:25,599
was how long ago everybody from chicago

1364
00:57:31,990 --> 00:57:29,440
harry carrie and steve stone were here

1365
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:32,000
cobs are playing the pirate you know

1366
00:57:36,150 --> 00:57:33,359
there would be like a

1367
00:57:36,870 --> 00:57:36,160
it was more festive but scully was a

1368
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:36,880
reporter

1369
00:57:40,549 --> 00:57:39,599
broadcast lay by playman had a lot of

1370
00:57:43,589 --> 00:57:40,559
elegance

1371
00:57:45,109 --> 00:57:43,599
but he never lost the dignity of being

1372
00:57:46,789 --> 00:57:45,119
or who he was

1373
00:57:48,309 --> 00:57:46,799
just the very best to and i want to tell

1374
00:57:50,789 --> 00:57:48,319
you something else jimmy

1375
00:57:52,789 --> 00:57:50,799
he's not just the sports broadcaster who

1376
00:57:53,990 --> 00:57:52,799
ever lived he's the best broadcaster who

1377
00:57:56,470 --> 00:57:54,000
ever lived when you consider

1378
00:57:57,510 --> 00:57:56,480
everything not edward r morrow not

1379
00:57:59,990 --> 00:57:57,520
walter cronkite

1380
00:58:00,950 --> 00:58:00,000
not chet huntley not you know any of

1381
00:58:03,030 --> 00:58:00,960
those people

1382
00:58:05,270 --> 00:58:03,040
could have done what he did for as long

1383
00:58:06,950 --> 00:58:05,280
as he did it and do it as well

1384
00:58:09,190 --> 00:58:06,960
i'm telling you he was the greatest

1385
00:58:12,549 --> 00:58:09,200
broadcaster in the history

1386
00:58:16,069 --> 00:58:12,559
of broadcasting not sporting and always

1387
00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:16,079
always as good as just about any time in

1388
00:58:20,950 --> 00:58:17,680
his career he was always

1389
00:58:22,549 --> 00:58:20,960
solidly excellent at what he did he was

1390
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:22,559
the best and

1391
00:58:25,910 --> 00:58:24,559
we've got to take a break right here but

1392
00:58:28,150 --> 00:58:25,920
let me let me

1393
00:58:30,069 --> 00:58:28,160
i'm just going to share this with you i

1394
00:58:32,549 --> 00:58:30,079
remember the first time i went up uh

1395
00:58:33,510 --> 00:58:32,559
with him into the press box at dodger

1396
00:58:35,670 --> 00:58:33,520
stadium

1397
00:58:37,510 --> 00:58:35,680
and we walked through and it says uh

1398
00:58:39,750 --> 00:58:37,520
above the entrance as you know it says

1399
00:58:42,710 --> 00:58:39,760
the vin scully studios right

1400
00:58:43,829 --> 00:58:42,720
so uh we walk in and he goes jimmy the

1401
00:58:46,950 --> 00:58:43,839
best part

1402
00:58:50,950 --> 00:58:46,960
you've got dodger dogs for free

1403
00:58:53,109 --> 00:58:50,960
and i was like life is good man

1404
00:58:55,190 --> 00:58:53,119
life is so good let's take our break

1405
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:55,200
right here roy you stay right there this

1406
00:58:58,390 --> 00:58:58,000
is fade to black roy firestone is with

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us

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tonight we are going to continue the art

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of talk this is fade to black i'm yours

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jimmy church more with roy after this

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short break

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you can follow me on twitter at

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jchurchradio you can follow roy

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links are right there stay with us

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welcome back fade to black i'm your host

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01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:38,319
jimmy church

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on the game changer network and ktra the

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planet

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tonight roy firestone is with us the art

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01:04:47,589 --> 01:04:44,960
of

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01:04:48,950 --> 01:04:47,599
talk you can follow me on twitter at j

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church radio you can follow

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roy right there on twitter at roy

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firestone of course he's always hanging

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out there on

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on facebook you've got to check out

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roy's mind every single day it's amazing

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01:05:02,309 --> 01:04:59,920
to go through

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uh now this is where i want to go next

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01:05:06,630 --> 01:05:03,599
roy

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01:05:11,270 --> 01:05:06,640
how do you keep

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01:05:17,109 --> 01:05:14,870
you don't i don't think you do i i think

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you don't make it about yourself but you

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01:05:23,270 --> 01:05:19,599
have to be invested in the interview

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01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:23,280
to where uh your point of view

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01:05:29,829 --> 01:05:26,880
your thoughts about a question

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01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:29,839
um are part of the of the conversation i

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01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:31,599
i think it's important to

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01:05:35,190 --> 01:05:33,359
again there's a difference between

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01:05:38,150 --> 01:05:35,200
making it about you

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01:05:39,109 --> 01:05:38,160
and making the conversation flow

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01:05:42,230 --> 01:05:39,119
properly

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um you know howard cosell would be was

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01:05:46,789 --> 01:05:44,079
notable for saying

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as i know exclusively that no one else

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knows

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01:05:53,109 --> 01:05:50,480
the the the tragedy of daryl porter

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01:05:54,870 --> 01:05:53,119
and what and i'm only i recognize you

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01:05:56,390 --> 01:05:54,880
know he made it about himself

1577
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:56,400
you know howard cassell's a legend

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01:05:58,950 --> 01:05:57,839
there's no doubt about it he had a lot

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01:06:01,270 --> 01:05:58,960
of incredible

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great moments in broadcasting but let's

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basically was pretty narcissistic

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01:06:06,870 --> 01:06:04,960
and by the way i think a lot of people

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in broadcasting are pretty narcissistic

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too

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i mean you know i i think larry king

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and i said this my article that i wrote

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he was a narcissist

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01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:17,520
but you know he wasn't a deadly

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01:06:20,789 --> 01:06:18,960
narcissist he wasn't

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01:06:22,150 --> 01:06:20,799
he didn't suck air out of a room but he

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really wanted to make everything about

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himself

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01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:25,039
i think there's a difference between

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01:06:29,589 --> 01:06:25,920
trying to make

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an interview about you and and

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01:06:34,630 --> 01:06:32,559
uh also trump and and the the difference

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01:06:35,829 --> 01:06:34,640
is and being part of the interview where

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you

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01:06:43,349 --> 01:06:40,240
to a question

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um you know i i i had

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hundreds of interviews where i would say

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as a kid

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i had this experience and i wonder you

1604
01:06:52,630 --> 01:06:51,039
know i told this story once

1605
01:06:54,230 --> 01:06:52,640
i've tried to remember who it was it

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01:06:56,950 --> 01:06:54,240
might have been hank aaron

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01:06:57,510 --> 01:06:56,960
but i was a little boy and growing up in

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my

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miami florida where i'm from i don't

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know if it was hank aaron but

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01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:03,119
it might let's just say it was and i

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remember going to get a drink of water

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as a little kid

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maybe seven or eight years old and it

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said

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colored and white and i went to the

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colored water fountain because

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01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:15,440
i thought as a little boy that meant

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orange

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01:07:20,630 --> 01:07:20,079
grape cherry i thought the water was

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01:07:23,750 --> 01:07:20,640
going to be

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01:07:27,950 --> 01:07:23,760
colored i had no concept at all

1623
01:07:32,470 --> 01:07:30,789
separatism and as it was in miami for

1624
01:07:35,750 --> 01:07:32,480
many many years

1625
01:07:37,670 --> 01:07:35,760
i and so i i referenced that story

1626
01:07:38,789 --> 01:07:37,680
to whom i whoever my guest was let's say

1627
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:38,799
it was hank aaron

1628
01:07:43,109 --> 01:07:40,400
and i got a better interview because he

1629
01:07:46,630 --> 01:07:43,119
understood that i could relate

1630
01:07:50,069 --> 01:07:46,640
even as a little boy a white kid who

1631
01:07:54,309 --> 01:07:50,079
who saw that separatism and

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01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:54,319
um discrimination and you know

1633
01:07:58,230 --> 01:07:56,480
and how it affected me it made me weep

1634
01:07:59,109 --> 01:07:58,240
as a little boy when i was finally told

1635
01:08:01,829 --> 01:07:59,119
that that's not

1636
01:08:02,870 --> 01:08:01,839
what colored watermelon fountain means

1637
01:08:05,190 --> 01:08:02,880
and so

1638
01:08:06,710 --> 01:08:05,200
i i related that question so jimmy the

1639
01:08:09,430 --> 01:08:06,720
answer to your point

1640
01:08:10,870 --> 01:08:09,440
yes sometimes you can make it about you

1641
01:08:13,349 --> 01:08:10,880
as long as you don't

1642
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:13,359
swell up and make it only about you in

1643
01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:14,799
an interview

1644
01:08:18,550 --> 01:08:17,759
you just mentioned it may have been hank

1645
01:08:21,510 --> 01:08:18,560
aaron

1646
01:08:22,470 --> 01:08:21,520
i find that interesting after 5 000

1647
01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:22,480
interviews

1648
01:08:26,309 --> 01:08:25,359
roy have you possibly forgotten more

1649
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:26,319
than you remember

1650
01:08:30,709 --> 01:08:28,960
that's a lot of interviews we did a lot

1651
01:08:32,789 --> 01:08:30,719
of interviews there's a lot i forgot

1652
01:08:35,110 --> 01:08:32,799
there's a lot i'll never forget

1653
01:08:36,149 --> 01:08:35,120
i certainly wouldn't forget hank much of

1654
01:08:39,349 --> 01:08:36,159
anything

1655
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:39,359
um very very humble man

1656
01:08:43,189 --> 01:08:42,560
um for a superstar he was one of the

1657
01:08:46,229 --> 01:08:43,199
most

1658
01:08:47,749 --> 01:08:46,239
humble people i've ever met uh he never

1659
01:08:50,829 --> 01:08:47,759
really wanted to speak out

1660
01:08:52,390 --> 01:08:50,839
about issues um he never wanted to talk

1661
01:08:55,110 --> 01:08:52,400
about

1662
01:08:55,910 --> 01:08:55,120
civil rights particularly until he

1663
01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:55,920
married his

1664
01:09:00,149 --> 01:08:59,040
wife of 47 years her name is ironically

1665
01:09:01,510 --> 01:09:00,159
billy williams

1666
01:09:02,630 --> 01:09:01,520
some baseball fans might remember

1667
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:02,640
there's a ballplayer named billy

1668
01:09:06,550 --> 01:09:03,600
williams

1669
01:09:07,349 --> 01:09:06,560
but she really got him to the forefront

1670
01:09:11,510 --> 01:09:07,359
she said

1671
01:09:13,110 --> 01:09:11,520
speak up use your platform 1974

1672
01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,120
hank aaron spoke up in the middle of

1673
01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:14,880
that home run chase and he talked about

1674
01:09:19,269 --> 01:09:16,480
racism he talked about

1675
01:09:19,990 --> 01:09:19,279
death threats he talked openly and you

1676
01:09:21,349 --> 01:09:20,000
know jimmy

1677
01:09:23,030 --> 01:09:21,359
i mentioned this in the piece i wrote

1678
01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:23,040
about him

1679
01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:25,040
most people would want to forget the

1680
01:09:29,430 --> 01:09:26,159
death threats

1681
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:29,440
and the hate letters he saved 2 000

1682
01:09:32,309 --> 01:09:30,000
letters

1683
01:09:33,189 --> 01:09:32,319
all of which were hateful even though he

1684
01:09:36,070 --> 01:09:33,199
admitted

1685
01:09:37,669 --> 01:09:36,080
that most of the people who corresponded

1686
01:09:38,709 --> 01:09:37,679
with him or wrote letters to him or

1687
01:09:42,309 --> 01:09:38,719
phone calls

1688
01:09:45,510 --> 01:09:42,319
were supportive and fans

1689
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,520
and loving and respectful he saved those

1690
01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:47,279
2000 letters because

1691
01:09:54,470 --> 01:09:50,719
as he put it i never want to forget

1692
01:09:57,510 --> 01:09:54,480
and you know he was a very very

1693
01:10:00,470 --> 01:09:57,520
graceful elegant but

1694
01:10:01,590 --> 01:10:00,480
humble man and i didn't forget him i

1695
01:10:03,830 --> 01:10:01,600
mean i had so many

1696
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:03,840
so many great experiences it shaped my

1697
01:10:07,550 --> 01:10:05,600
life being an interviewer

1698
01:10:09,270 --> 01:10:07,560
um i don't think a particularly

1699
01:10:11,669 --> 01:10:09,280
sophisticated person

1700
01:10:12,470 --> 01:10:11,679
but i think it definitely introduced me

1701
01:10:15,110 --> 01:10:12,480
to people like

1702
01:10:16,870 --> 01:10:15,120
david halberstam a great pulitzer prize

1703
01:10:19,270 --> 01:10:16,880
writer and george will

1704
01:10:21,510 --> 01:10:19,280
and some of these other writers and

1705
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:21,520
broadcasters and hearing their stories

1706
01:10:26,950 --> 01:10:24,960
even through osmosis i got

1707
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:26,960
better and more worldly just through

1708
01:10:30,709 --> 01:10:28,560
that experience that's the thing that

1709
01:10:33,750 --> 01:10:30,719
i'll always be grateful for

1710
01:10:35,750 --> 01:10:33,760
how it raised my intellect it raised my

1711
01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:35,760
consciousness it raised my awareness of

1712
01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:37,199
the world at large

1713
01:10:40,630 --> 01:10:39,040
just by interviewing and i think that

1714
01:10:42,229 --> 01:10:40,640
that's the greatest gift that you get

1715
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:42,239
from interview you learn

1716
01:10:49,750 --> 01:10:45,920
about people how do you figure out

1717
01:10:51,750 --> 01:10:49,760
what zone not to go into

1718
01:10:54,310 --> 01:10:51,760
you know where the it could be a little

1719
01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:54,320
touchy maybe some anger and the next

1720
01:10:58,470 --> 01:10:55,280
thing you know

1721
01:10:59,750 --> 01:10:58,480
you may lose control well i had a couple

1722
01:11:01,510 --> 01:10:59,760
of those

1723
01:11:03,270 --> 01:11:01,520
you know i had my interview with bobby

1724
01:11:04,870 --> 01:11:03,280
knight

1725
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:04,880
some people might remember it was a

1726
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:06,719
controversial interview

1727
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,520
i had my interview with i remember barry

1728
01:11:13,270 --> 01:11:11,440
switzer the coach at oklahoma said did

1729
01:11:14,630 --> 01:11:13,280
anyone ever punch you in the mouth

1730
01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:14,640
in the in the in the middle of an

1731
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:17,440
interview it was a little unsettling

1732
01:11:21,990 --> 01:11:20,560
um i have people ted turner walked off

1733
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,000
my show once

1734
01:11:26,470 --> 01:11:23,679
uh because he didn't like the line of

1735
01:11:29,430 --> 01:11:26,480
questioning i i was never

1736
01:11:31,350 --> 01:11:29,440
and i i i'm proud of it people may have

1737
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:31,360
called it softer i don't know whatever

1738
01:11:34,229 --> 01:11:32,640
they might have called it but i'm proud

1739
01:11:36,390 --> 01:11:34,239
of the fact that i was never

1740
01:11:38,149 --> 01:11:36,400
in your face confrontational i couldn't

1741
01:11:40,310 --> 01:11:38,159
do what jim rome does

1742
01:11:41,590 --> 01:11:40,320
jim rome does what he does he wants to

1743
01:11:43,430 --> 01:11:41,600
get uh

1744
01:11:45,830 --> 01:11:43,440
take you know a take and not suck and

1745
01:11:47,030 --> 01:11:45,840
that's his that's his calling card it's

1746
01:11:48,470 --> 01:11:47,040
just not who i am

1747
01:11:50,630 --> 01:11:48,480
and that's another thing you got to be

1748
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:50,640
yourself i'm not by nature a

1749
01:11:54,470 --> 01:11:52,000
confrontational person

1750
01:11:55,430 --> 01:11:54,480
i'm not a guy who looks hostily at

1751
01:11:58,390 --> 01:11:55,440
anybody

1752
01:11:59,830 --> 01:11:58,400
um i ask tough questions i have you know

1753
01:12:01,030 --> 01:11:59,840
i was looking at some of my interviews

1754
01:12:03,030 --> 01:12:01,040
today because we're putting together a

1755
01:12:06,070 --> 01:12:03,040
pilot for something i'm doing

1756
01:12:07,669 --> 01:12:06,080
you know i asked him jose conseco if you

1757
01:12:07,990 --> 01:12:07,679
knew that kids were using steroids

1758
01:12:09,510 --> 01:12:08,000
because

1759
01:12:11,830 --> 01:12:09,520
they were inspired by you do you have

1760
01:12:12,630 --> 01:12:11,840
any shame in that a fairly pointed

1761
01:12:14,709 --> 01:12:12,640
question

1762
01:12:15,990 --> 01:12:14,719
pete rose i said to him i don't think

1763
01:12:17,990 --> 01:12:16,000
you're sorry

1764
01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:18,000
that you heard baseball or that you

1765
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:19,760
gambled i think you're sorry you got

1766
01:12:23,990 --> 01:12:22,480
caught and those were two points i made

1767
01:12:27,110 --> 01:12:24,000
just two examples

1768
01:12:28,470 --> 01:12:27,120
of pointed questions without alienating

1769
01:12:30,790 --> 01:12:28,480
your guests to a point where they want

1770
01:12:33,350 --> 01:12:30,800
to walk off and i did have that too

1771
01:12:35,590 --> 01:12:33,360
did you when you're at that moment with

1772
01:12:37,990 --> 01:12:35,600
somebody like pete rose

1773
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:38,000
uh do you have to brace yourself for you

1774
01:12:41,990 --> 01:12:39,360
might get punched

1775
01:12:43,830 --> 01:12:42,000
right have you just prepared not from

1776
01:12:46,550 --> 01:12:43,840
pete rose pete

1777
01:12:48,550 --> 01:12:46,560
one thing is strange about pete he does

1778
01:12:50,709 --> 01:12:48,560
take on any question you want he doesn't

1779
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,719
get angry he just

1780
01:12:55,030 --> 01:12:53,120
he because he's he's in a strange perch

1781
01:12:56,870 --> 01:12:55,040
this cat he's always

1782
01:12:58,470 --> 01:12:56,880
convinced that whatever he does in his

1783
01:13:00,229 --> 01:12:58,480
life is the right thing

1784
01:13:01,830 --> 01:13:00,239
and no one's going to tell him any

1785
01:13:03,189 --> 01:13:01,840
differently so i was never afraid of

1786
01:13:05,590 --> 01:13:03,199
somebody like pete rose

1787
01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,600
i was however a little more afraid of

1788
01:13:08,709 --> 01:13:07,199
you know somebody like bob knight who

1789
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:08,719
could blow up and did

1790
01:13:14,070 --> 01:13:11,840
at me um then than

1791
01:13:14,870 --> 01:13:14,080
most guests but for the most part i

1792
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:14,880
tried to

1793
01:13:18,870 --> 01:13:17,360
to conduct and navigate an interview

1794
01:13:21,510 --> 01:13:18,880
with respect

1795
01:13:22,550 --> 01:13:21,520
even if i differed with that person um

1796
01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:22,560
and tried to

1797
01:13:28,390 --> 01:13:25,760
to i it wasn't i didn't wear a badge

1798
01:13:29,110 --> 01:13:28,400
oh i really got him today i won that

1799
01:13:31,189 --> 01:13:29,120
interview

1800
01:13:33,510 --> 01:13:31,199
i wasn't that kind of guy i still i'm

1801
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:33,520
not that kind of a human being

1802
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:35,600
i like i like people to reveal something

1803
01:13:41,030 --> 01:13:37,360
because they want to

1804
01:13:42,070 --> 01:13:41,040
themselves and i like to think at my

1805
01:13:44,790 --> 01:13:42,080
best

1806
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:44,800
that's when those interviews really sang

1807
01:13:48,950 --> 01:13:46,640
when they really flew flowed

1808
01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:48,960
was when people felt like sharing you

1809
01:13:51,590 --> 01:13:50,000
know when

1810
01:13:53,030 --> 01:13:51,600
bill walton came on the show talking

1811
01:13:54,709 --> 01:13:53,040
about his father was very emotional i

1812
01:13:55,830 --> 01:13:54,719
know people always say oh roy gets him

1813
01:13:57,510 --> 01:13:55,840
to cry

1814
01:13:59,350 --> 01:13:57,520
but i don't think it was so much a case

1815
01:14:01,830 --> 01:13:59,360
of me getting them to cry

1816
01:14:03,189 --> 01:14:01,840
as them wanting to cry as them wanting

1817
01:14:05,270 --> 01:14:03,199
to reveal something something was

1818
01:14:06,790 --> 01:14:05,280
bubbling underneath their skin

1819
01:14:08,310 --> 01:14:06,800
and they wanted to get it out and i

1820
01:14:10,709 --> 01:14:08,320
happened to find a way

1821
01:14:13,270 --> 01:14:10,719
to have them talk about it dennis rodman

1822
01:14:14,790 --> 01:14:13,280
famously cried on my show

1823
01:14:17,430 --> 01:14:14,800
cameron crowe the director of jerry

1824
01:14:20,390 --> 01:14:17,440
maguire saw it he wanted

1825
01:14:23,110 --> 01:14:20,400
he wanted for jerry maguire the movie he

1826
01:14:24,709 --> 01:14:23,120
wanted dennis rodman to play rod tidwell

1827
01:14:26,310 --> 01:14:24,719
people don't know that because they saw

1828
01:14:28,229 --> 01:14:26,320
my show but

1829
01:14:30,310 --> 01:14:28,239
uh they got thank god i get cuba gooding

1830
01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:30,320
jr who won the academy award and i was

1831
01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:32,000
in a scene with him but

1832
01:14:37,990 --> 01:14:35,440
i i got a motion for some reason

1833
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:38,000
and then the other thing of course i say

1834
01:14:40,870 --> 01:14:39,280
everyone says oh

1835
01:14:42,390 --> 01:14:40,880
all roy firestone ever did was make him

1836
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:42,400
cry a lot of it had to do with jerry

1837
01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:43,280
maguire

1838
01:14:48,709 --> 01:14:46,560
where that cliche was furthered but

1839
01:14:51,430 --> 01:14:48,719
i didn't have 5 000 interviews i think

1840
01:14:53,830 --> 01:14:51,440
we counted 20 people cried in 5 000

1841
01:14:55,110 --> 01:14:53,840
that's a very small percentage but and

1842
01:14:58,070 --> 01:14:55,120
this is important

1843
01:14:58,709 --> 01:14:58,080
it shows you what people remember and

1844
01:15:01,110 --> 01:14:58,719
the

1845
01:15:02,310 --> 01:15:01,120
irony here is especially in this day and

1846
01:15:04,790 --> 01:15:02,320
age with viral

1847
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:04,800
media people would much rather see

1848
01:15:09,350 --> 01:15:05,360
somebody

1849
01:15:13,030 --> 01:15:09,360
weep on a show than just say something

1850
01:15:16,470 --> 01:15:13,040
you know factual or not emotionally

1851
01:15:17,830 --> 01:15:16,480
they want the emotion and that's that's

1852
01:15:19,910 --> 01:15:17,840
that's something that i've always

1853
01:15:22,229 --> 01:15:19,920
believed was always at the center

1854
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:22,239
they want somebody to reveal something

1855
01:15:26,390 --> 01:15:23,600
of their soul

1856
01:15:28,070 --> 01:15:26,400
and not every show i could do that i i

1857
01:15:30,550 --> 01:15:28,080
don't pretend that i could

1858
01:15:32,310 --> 01:15:30,560
but when the best of my shows were when

1859
01:15:33,910 --> 01:15:32,320
somebody showed you something about them

1860
01:15:38,229 --> 01:15:33,920
you never knew before

1861
01:15:42,229 --> 01:15:38,239
how do you approach uh an athlete

1862
01:15:45,350 --> 01:15:42,239
versus an actor or a film director

1863
01:15:46,229 --> 01:15:45,360
is is is a kobe bryant interview the

1864
01:15:49,990 --> 01:15:46,239
same as an

1865
01:15:51,669 --> 01:15:50,000
elton john interview for you

1866
01:15:53,510 --> 01:15:51,679
well in the case of entertainment people

1867
01:15:54,310 --> 01:15:53,520
you're doing a sports show so you have

1868
01:15:57,590 --> 01:15:54,320
to sort of

1869
01:16:00,630 --> 01:15:57,600
i had jerry lewis on i had tom hanks on

1870
01:16:03,510 --> 01:16:00,640
i had elton john on um but

1871
01:16:05,669 --> 01:16:03,520
talking about sports so i really had to

1872
01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:05,679
stay within the confines

1873
01:16:09,510 --> 01:16:08,000
of sports because it was a sports show i

1874
01:16:11,990 --> 01:16:09,520
just couldn't sit and talk about

1875
01:16:12,550 --> 01:16:12,000
you know uh the bell boy with jerry

1876
01:16:15,430 --> 01:16:12,560
lewis

1877
01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:15,440
in the middle of a sports show with

1878
01:16:18,630 --> 01:16:16,880
elton john i couldn't

1879
01:16:20,630 --> 01:16:18,640
i couldn't talk about funeral for a

1880
01:16:21,590 --> 01:16:20,640
friend or your song or any of his hit

1881
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:21,600
records

1882
01:16:24,630 --> 01:16:23,840
i want to know why he loves sports so

1883
01:16:32,709 --> 01:16:24,640
much

1884
01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:34,229
out of nowhere he wanted me to be

1885
01:16:37,830 --> 01:16:35,840
interviewed he wanted to be interviewed

1886
01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:37,840
by me to talk about the braves

1887
01:16:41,750 --> 01:16:40,080
because he was a huge baseball fan and

1888
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:41,760
at one point he told me

1889
01:16:45,669 --> 01:16:44,719
he said you know when the braves are in

1890
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:45,679
the playoffs

1891
01:16:50,790 --> 01:16:48,719
and i'm doing a show in a concert and

1892
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:50,800
i have the game in my ear when i'm doing

1893
01:16:53,990 --> 01:16:52,159
the car i said what

1894
01:16:55,750 --> 01:16:54,000
you had the game in your ear on an

1895
01:16:58,310 --> 01:16:55,760
earpiece he goes oh yes

1896
01:16:59,590 --> 01:16:58,320
i can listen to my show and the ball

1897
01:17:02,070 --> 01:16:59,600
game

1898
01:17:03,830 --> 01:17:02,080
and if they win the braves win this was

1899
01:17:05,990 --> 01:17:03,840
back when they were in the playoffs but

1900
01:17:08,550 --> 01:17:06,000
back when they were really good he says

1901
01:17:10,390 --> 01:17:08,560
when they win i'm so happy for my braves

1902
01:17:11,750 --> 01:17:10,400
i give another two or three songs he

1903
01:17:14,950 --> 01:17:11,760
says but when they lose

1904
01:17:16,709 --> 01:17:14,960
i get so pissed off i cut the shows

1905
01:17:18,470 --> 01:17:16,719
shorter and so i could go to the

1906
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:18,480
dressing room and be pissed off i mean

1907
01:17:23,830 --> 01:17:20,400
he was a real baseball fan

1908
01:17:26,149 --> 01:17:23,840
springsteen too tom hanks was an

1909
01:17:27,030 --> 01:17:26,159
usher at the oakland a's games talked a

1910
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,040
lot about

1911
01:17:30,470 --> 01:17:29,520
the a's and sports and baseball of

1912
01:17:31,990 --> 01:17:30,480
course it was in league

1913
01:17:33,590 --> 01:17:32,000
league of their own that's why he was on

1914
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,600
my show so

1915
01:17:36,709 --> 01:17:35,199
the questions are different for

1916
01:17:40,149 --> 01:17:36,719
entertainers but

1917
01:17:42,390 --> 01:17:40,159
in my case i was pretty much strictly

1918
01:17:43,830 --> 01:17:42,400
about sports i had to stay within a

1919
01:17:46,790 --> 01:17:43,840
confines of sports

1920
01:17:48,229 --> 01:17:46,800
as a conversation you uh you said

1921
01:17:50,950 --> 01:17:48,239
something this week

1922
01:17:52,950 --> 01:17:50,960
that stop me in my tracks and i i want

1923
01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:52,960
you to comment further on it

1924
01:17:56,870 --> 01:17:56,480
you said uh man i'm just gonna throw you

1925
01:18:00,310 --> 01:17:56,880
straight

1926
01:18:03,910 --> 01:18:00,320
under the bus roy you said he said

1927
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:03,920
you know as a show host you interview

1928
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:06,560
uh these guests and and these

1929
01:18:10,790 --> 01:18:08,640
entertainers these athletes

1930
01:18:12,149 --> 01:18:10,800
but you need to know that they are not

1931
01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,159
your friend and

1932
01:18:15,510 --> 01:18:14,800
of course yeah i'm paraphrasing here no

1933
01:18:18,950 --> 01:18:15,520
it's true

1934
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:18,960
yeah it was one of the hardest um

1935
01:18:23,830 --> 01:18:21,520
realizations i came to as a young man

1936
01:18:25,189 --> 01:18:23,840
you know i i started this business at 21

1937
01:18:27,590 --> 01:18:25,199
years old

1938
01:18:30,229 --> 01:18:27,600
and i had the illusion because these

1939
01:18:32,229 --> 01:18:30,239
people would come on our show that

1940
01:18:34,310 --> 01:18:32,239
you know they liked me they want

1941
01:18:37,510 --> 01:18:34,320
considered me a friend

1942
01:18:38,229 --> 01:18:37,520
and i made some friends some very famous

1943
01:18:41,669 --> 01:18:38,239
friends

1944
01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:41,679
but not the i look at the word friend as

1945
01:18:45,110 --> 01:18:43,920
a very sacred word a true a true what a

1946
01:18:46,550 --> 01:18:45,120
true friend is

1947
01:18:48,149 --> 01:18:46,560
not an acquaintance these people were

1948
01:18:50,870 --> 01:18:48,159
more acquaintances

1949
01:18:51,830 --> 01:18:50,880
but when you don't have the show anymore

1950
01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:51,840
jimmy

1951
01:18:55,669 --> 01:18:53,600
and i didn't have i haven't had the show

1952
01:18:59,030 --> 01:18:55,679
for quite a while

1953
01:18:59,590 --> 01:18:59,040
they forget you and i i i wasn't hurt by

1954
01:19:01,990 --> 01:18:59,600
it but

1955
01:19:02,630 --> 01:19:02,000
it it was surprising to me because where

1956
01:19:04,630 --> 01:19:02,640
they used to

1957
01:19:06,310 --> 01:19:04,640
used to go out to dinner with them be on

1958
01:19:08,470 --> 01:19:06,320
a first name basis with them i'm going

1959
01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:08,480
to give you any names but then you see

1960
01:19:11,270 --> 01:19:09,679
them and you haven't seen them for five

1961
01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:11,280
years they don't know your name

1962
01:19:15,430 --> 01:19:13,760
in fact the friendship they had was the

1963
01:19:18,229 --> 01:19:15,440
friendship with the show

1964
01:19:19,270 --> 01:19:18,239
they came on the show to plug them plug

1965
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:19,280
their movie

1966
01:19:22,950 --> 01:19:22,560
plug their you know book whatever what

1967
01:19:27,430 --> 01:19:22,960
they

1968
01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:27,440
the biggest mistake people make in

1969
01:19:32,149 --> 01:19:29,040
broadcasting is think

1970
01:19:33,430 --> 01:19:32,159
that because you have a show and well

1971
01:19:34,790 --> 01:19:33,440
you're not even aware of the fact that

1972
01:19:35,669 --> 01:19:34,800
the show is really what drives

1973
01:19:38,550 --> 01:19:35,679
everything

1974
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:38,560
but if you if you if you were just a guy

1975
01:19:40,550 --> 01:19:39,920
walking down the street with these

1976
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:40,560
people they

1977
01:19:44,229 --> 01:19:42,080
probably wouldn't give you the time of

1978
01:19:47,189 --> 01:19:44,239
day but because you had a show

1979
01:19:48,390 --> 01:19:47,199
you were currency to them and you meant

1980
01:19:51,590 --> 01:19:48,400
something to them

1981
01:19:54,229 --> 01:19:51,600
again i had some friends and i still do

1982
01:19:55,910 --> 01:19:54,239
i in sports some very big names i

1983
01:19:56,470 --> 01:19:55,920
consider bill walton a very good friend

1984
01:19:58,070 --> 01:19:56,480
i think

1985
01:20:00,790 --> 01:19:58,080
howie long is a good friend terry

1986
01:20:03,590 --> 01:20:00,800
bradshaw all these are great people

1987
01:20:05,910 --> 01:20:03,600
nice people would do something for me if

1988
01:20:09,030 --> 01:20:05,920
it and i would do something for them

1989
01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:09,040
but the biggest mistake you can make is

1990
01:20:13,270 --> 01:20:11,120
thinking that these people

1991
01:20:14,149 --> 01:20:13,280
most people who come on your show really

1992
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:14,159
really

1993
01:20:18,470 --> 01:20:17,120
think that you're their friend and i had

1994
01:20:21,669 --> 01:20:18,480
an expression

1995
01:20:24,550 --> 01:20:21,679
all who smile are not your friend

1996
01:20:25,830 --> 01:20:24,560
in life and it was hard as a kid a young

1997
01:20:29,110 --> 01:20:25,840
man too

1998
01:20:31,430 --> 01:20:29,120
to grasp that i always assumed that

1999
01:20:33,270 --> 01:20:31,440
these people would be my friends forever

2000
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,280
and i realized that all the only they

2001
01:20:37,110 --> 01:20:35,600
were loved with was themselves

2002
01:20:39,590 --> 01:20:37,120
and being on the show to plug their

2003
01:20:41,350 --> 01:20:39,600
product when

2004
01:20:42,629 --> 01:20:41,360
when you come to that kind of

2005
01:20:46,950 --> 01:20:42,639
realization

2006
01:20:50,310 --> 01:20:49,270
right yeah yeah of course it is and you

2007
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:50,320
know by the way

2008
01:20:53,669 --> 01:20:52,080
it doesn't even have to be connected to

2009
01:20:57,830 --> 01:20:53,679
a broadcast

2010
01:21:00,629 --> 01:20:57,840
um in relationships sometimes people

2011
01:21:01,189 --> 01:21:00,639
more than sometimes have frequently you

2012
01:21:03,110 --> 01:21:01,199
know

2013
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:03,120
relationships are built on what can you

2014
01:21:07,430 --> 01:21:04,400
give to me

2015
01:21:09,669 --> 01:21:07,440
either monetarily or something

2016
01:21:11,990 --> 01:21:09,679
that makes you more special than some

2017
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:12,000
other guy down the street

2018
01:21:15,750 --> 01:21:13,600
i don't mean to be cynical about love

2019
01:21:17,669 --> 01:21:15,760
but in many cases you know we hear the

2020
01:21:19,189 --> 01:21:17,679
phrase gold diggers there's gold diggers

2021
01:21:21,669 --> 01:21:19,199
male and female

2022
01:21:23,350 --> 01:21:21,679
um athletes are wary of that and it

2023
01:21:28,229 --> 01:21:23,360
works both ways

2024
01:21:31,030 --> 01:21:28,239
but you know i think human nature is

2025
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:31,040
that most people are looking what's the

2026
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,560
upside of me becoming

2027
01:21:36,149 --> 01:21:35,679
friends or lover with this person uh

2028
01:21:42,709 --> 01:21:36,159
what

2029
01:21:44,149 --> 01:21:42,719
and i think by the way it's also i think

2030
01:21:47,110 --> 01:21:44,159
a healthy thing

2031
01:21:47,750 --> 01:21:47,120
to come to that realization that just

2032
01:21:50,229 --> 01:21:47,760
because

2033
01:21:51,030 --> 01:21:50,239
that you have a show you're not that

2034
01:21:54,070 --> 01:21:51,040
special

2035
01:21:55,910 --> 01:21:54,080
someone's gonna

2036
01:21:58,229 --> 01:21:55,920
some you know ray charles i interviewed

2037
01:22:00,149 --> 01:21:58,239
him one time i still remember this line

2038
01:22:02,229 --> 01:22:00,159
i said what was the hardest

2039
01:22:03,510 --> 01:22:02,239
a realization you have come to in your

2040
01:22:06,070 --> 01:22:03,520
life what was the hardest

2041
01:22:06,790 --> 01:22:06,080
lesson he says the hardest lesson in

2042
01:22:09,030 --> 01:22:06,800
life

2043
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:09,040
was the realization that someone's there

2044
01:22:13,110 --> 01:22:11,120
to take your place

2045
01:22:15,030 --> 01:22:13,120
and i thought that maybe you're ray

2046
01:22:15,669 --> 01:22:15,040
charles man no one's gonna ever he says

2047
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:15,679
oh

2048
01:22:20,870 --> 01:22:18,800
he says i'll be dead and long gone

2049
01:22:22,709 --> 01:22:20,880
and some people by my records and some

2050
01:22:24,390 --> 01:22:22,719
people love listening on the radio

2051
01:22:26,550 --> 01:22:24,400
but they'll forget because someone else

2052
01:22:28,390 --> 01:22:26,560
is in on in the spotlight

2053
01:22:30,709 --> 01:22:28,400
he says and that was a hard thing for me

2054
01:22:32,070 --> 01:22:30,719
to accept someone's there to take your

2055
01:22:34,709 --> 01:22:32,080
place and i feel that way

2056
01:22:35,590 --> 01:22:34,719
in broadcasting too it's a very humbling

2057
01:22:38,149 --> 01:22:35,600
industry

2058
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:38,159
um there's a there's a lot of jealousy

2059
01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:39,600
there's some backbiting

2060
01:22:42,950 --> 01:22:41,840
there's some wonderful wonderful people

2061
01:22:45,270 --> 01:22:42,960
that i've known and met

2062
01:22:46,709 --> 01:22:45,280
and still i'm friends with but you know

2063
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:46,719
you got to watch your back

2064
01:22:50,629 --> 01:22:49,040
and you also have to realize in life

2065
01:22:52,709 --> 01:22:50,639
that there's disappointment

2066
01:22:53,990 --> 01:22:52,719
and people will disappoint you i don't

2067
01:22:56,470 --> 01:22:54,000
mean to be a cynic

2068
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:56,480
but i do think it's true about life and

2069
01:22:59,510 --> 01:22:58,400
that you only really have a core in my

2070
01:23:02,550 --> 01:22:59,520
opinion at least i

2071
01:23:05,270 --> 01:23:02,560
for me of i have a handful of friends

2072
01:23:07,110 --> 01:23:05,280
real friends people who who don't give a

2073
01:23:09,110 --> 01:23:07,120
damn whether you have a show or not they

2074
01:23:10,870 --> 01:23:09,120
just want to be in your life

2075
01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:10,880
that's what friendship is about and

2076
01:23:12,790 --> 01:23:12,000
there's a difference between

2077
01:23:16,149 --> 01:23:12,800
acquaintance

2078
01:23:17,270 --> 01:23:16,159
and friendship i had uh i had some

2079
01:23:20,709 --> 01:23:17,280
advice

2080
01:23:24,229 --> 01:23:20,719
once uh from uh uh

2081
01:23:28,950 --> 01:23:24,239
a very popular broadcaster

2082
01:23:31,990 --> 01:23:28,960
and and i said hey what can you tell me

2083
01:23:32,390 --> 01:23:32,000
what is the one thing i need to know and

2084
01:23:38,229 --> 01:23:32,400
he

2085
01:23:41,750 --> 01:23:39,750
yeah i worked i worked with a couple of

2086
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,760
people like that i had a guy i'm not

2087
01:23:46,229 --> 01:23:43,120
going to give me a name but

2088
01:23:47,189 --> 01:23:46,239
i was i was co-hosting with this guy it

2089
01:23:49,750 --> 01:23:47,199
was a guy

2090
01:23:51,510 --> 01:23:49,760
not that much i'll tell you and he was

2091
01:23:54,470 --> 01:23:51,520
going on vacation

2092
01:23:56,229 --> 01:23:54,480
and he went to like south america and he

2093
01:23:57,669 --> 01:23:56,239
came all the way back from south america

2094
01:23:59,430 --> 01:23:57,679
so he could make the sunday night

2095
01:24:01,110 --> 01:23:59,440
wrap-up show that i was going to fill in

2096
01:24:03,990 --> 01:24:01,120
for him just to make sure

2097
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,000
that i didn't replace him so he cut off

2098
01:24:09,110 --> 01:24:06,320
his vacation to south america just to do

2099
01:24:12,070 --> 01:24:09,120
a silly highlight show on a sunday night

2100
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:12,080
and that kind of that's kind of true but

2101
01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:13,840
you also can't be paranoid too

2102
01:24:16,950 --> 01:24:15,679
you can't be in a position in life where

2103
01:24:19,189 --> 01:24:16,960
you're looking around

2104
01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,199
you got to watch your back but you can't

2105
01:24:23,750 --> 01:24:20,960
walk your whole life with

2106
01:24:25,430 --> 01:24:23,760
with your your neck cranked behind you

2107
01:24:25,990 --> 01:24:25,440
because that's no way to walk in your

2108
01:24:29,110 --> 01:24:26,000
life

2109
01:24:31,910 --> 01:24:29,120
yeah i i also happen to think that

2110
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,920
everybody in life even the the the

2111
01:24:35,750 --> 01:24:32,560
people that

2112
01:24:37,669 --> 01:24:35,760
that hurt you or set you down all gave

2113
01:24:39,110 --> 01:24:37,679
you something that you can use you can

2114
01:24:41,669 --> 01:24:39,120
learn about life

2115
01:24:42,790 --> 01:24:41,679
you can learn about uh the human

2116
01:24:44,629 --> 01:24:42,800
condition

2117
01:24:47,830 --> 01:24:44,639
just through your experiences we are the

2118
01:24:49,750 --> 01:24:47,840
sum of the parts of people

2119
01:24:51,030 --> 01:24:49,760
who've come into our lives and by the

2120
01:24:53,430 --> 01:24:51,040
way that's that's the

2121
01:24:55,270 --> 01:24:53,440
the other thing i want to say i don't

2122
01:24:56,870 --> 01:24:55,280
talk politics i'm not going to talk

2123
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:56,880
politics here

2124
01:25:00,229 --> 01:24:59,199
but i think we we have such a divide in

2125
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:00,239
this country

2126
01:25:04,790 --> 01:25:02,320
because we have forgotten how to talk to

2127
01:25:07,830 --> 01:25:04,800
people we have forgotten how to

2128
01:25:08,310 --> 01:25:07,840
communicate and to find some commonality

2129
01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:08,320
and to

2130
01:25:16,550 --> 01:25:12,960
but most of all we've forgotten how

2131
01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:16,560
short life is man and how we are not

2132
01:25:20,870 --> 01:25:19,040
guaranteed anything kobe bryant would

2133
01:25:24,070 --> 01:25:20,880
love to be here today

2134
01:25:24,950 --> 01:25:24,080
uh you know he got on that helicopter

2135
01:25:26,790 --> 01:25:24,960
thinking he was going to

2136
01:25:28,149 --> 01:25:26,800
have a sunday afternoon leisure time

2137
01:25:29,990 --> 01:25:28,159
with his daughter playing

2138
01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:30,000
but in a basketball game he was going to

2139
01:25:33,110 --> 01:25:31,840
coach and he'd go home that night and he

2140
01:25:36,229 --> 01:25:33,120
had dreams

2141
01:25:39,350 --> 01:25:36,239
nothing is owed to you

2142
01:25:41,189 --> 01:25:39,360
and i think as a people whatever

2143
01:25:43,110 --> 01:25:41,199
side of the political spectrum you might

2144
01:25:46,149 --> 01:25:43,120
be on if you can't

2145
01:25:47,990 --> 01:25:46,159
recognize that life is so short

2146
01:25:49,590 --> 01:25:48,000
we better be kind to each other we

2147
01:25:52,229 --> 01:25:49,600
better find a way

2148
01:25:52,950 --> 01:25:52,239
to communicate with each other without

2149
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:52,960
rancor

2150
01:26:00,070 --> 01:25:57,120
because we are all disposable

2151
01:26:01,750 --> 01:26:00,080
and whatever treasure you have in

2152
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:01,760
somebody in your life

2153
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:03,840
just know that someday that will be a

2154
01:26:07,189 --> 01:26:04,960
buried treasure

2155
01:26:08,470 --> 01:26:07,199
that person will be gone so you might as

2156
01:26:11,590 --> 01:26:08,480
well say thank you

2157
01:26:13,430 --> 01:26:11,600
be grateful be gracious and try to find

2158
01:26:16,229 --> 01:26:13,440
something in a conversation

2159
01:26:16,709 --> 01:26:16,239
that can unite you with another human

2160
01:26:18,470 --> 01:26:16,719
being

2161
01:26:19,669 --> 01:26:18,480
and i i'll i'll leave it one last

2162
01:26:20,310 --> 01:26:19,679
thought you know what i thought about

2163
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:20,320
the other day

2164
01:26:23,510 --> 01:26:22,000
what's that i thought i thought that

2165
01:26:28,950 --> 01:26:23,520
dogs

2166
01:26:30,070 --> 01:26:28,960
if you talk to somebody of political

2167
01:26:34,310 --> 01:26:30,080
differences

2168
01:26:37,110 --> 01:26:34,320
their dog and you love your dog

2169
01:26:39,189 --> 01:26:37,120
and you sit there talking about dogs i'm

2170
01:26:40,310 --> 01:26:39,199
telling you right now people open up

2171
01:26:41,830 --> 01:26:40,320
it's like talking about their

2172
01:26:42,709 --> 01:26:41,840
grandchildren they want to show you a

2173
01:26:44,950 --> 01:26:42,719
picture

2174
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:44,960
and i believe that commonality is what

2175
01:26:48,310 --> 01:26:45,840
we need

2176
01:26:50,070 --> 01:26:48,320
in this world i think people need to

2177
01:26:51,110 --> 01:26:50,080
have something in common something to

2178
01:26:53,669 --> 01:26:51,120
relate to

2179
01:26:54,229 --> 01:26:53,679
that gets past all of the differences

2180
01:26:56,550 --> 01:26:54,239
and just

2181
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:56,560
makes it one-to-one hey did i show you

2182
01:26:59,510 --> 01:26:57,760
the picture of this great

2183
01:27:01,669 --> 01:26:59,520
i have this great labrador retriever

2184
01:27:03,750 --> 01:27:01,679
which i do uh

2185
01:27:05,110 --> 01:27:03,760
tell me about your dog you know and they

2186
01:27:06,629 --> 01:27:05,120
maybe they don't like dogs

2187
01:27:08,629 --> 01:27:06,639
maybe it's something else maybe it's

2188
01:27:10,229 --> 01:27:08,639
their grandchildren and i think that

2189
01:27:11,830 --> 01:27:10,239
that's what we need to get back to we

2190
01:27:12,950 --> 01:27:11,840
need to get back to communicating with

2191
01:27:16,229 --> 01:27:12,960
people

2192
01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:16,239
uh for the best of reasons that

2193
01:27:19,350 --> 01:27:18,800
speaks to our humanity and the fact that

2194
01:27:22,550 --> 01:27:19,360
we are

2195
01:27:23,669 --> 01:27:22,560
all on borrowed time and that that our

2196
01:27:26,149 --> 01:27:23,679
due date is all

2197
01:27:26,790 --> 01:27:26,159
is is on the on the horizon and we

2198
01:27:29,830 --> 01:27:26,800
better

2199
01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:29,840
wise up to that and be grateful and have

2200
01:27:33,430 --> 01:27:30,800
gratitude

2201
01:27:34,629 --> 01:27:33,440
for everybody in your life if you can

2202
01:27:36,390 --> 01:27:34,639
it's so important

2203
01:27:38,310 --> 01:27:36,400
now when we come back we're up against a

2204
01:27:39,430 --> 01:27:38,320
break but when we come back i want to

2205
01:27:42,470 --> 01:27:39,440
talk about

2206
01:27:43,189 --> 01:27:42,480
uh kobe and a boy named roy your new

2207
01:27:44,709 --> 01:27:43,199
book

2208
01:27:47,189 --> 01:27:44,719
and and we'll do that after the break

2209
01:27:50,629 --> 01:27:47,199
but there's something else uh i want

2210
01:27:51,430 --> 01:27:50,639
the audience to know that there is a

2211
01:27:54,149 --> 01:27:51,440
divide

2212
01:27:55,189 --> 01:27:54,159
and and social media is polluted with

2213
01:27:57,669 --> 01:27:55,199
stuff

2214
01:27:58,229 --> 01:27:57,679
and you back up with what you're saying

2215
01:28:02,310 --> 01:27:58,239
right

2216
01:28:06,229 --> 01:28:02,320
you you absolutely flooded the internet

2217
01:28:08,390 --> 01:28:06,239
with your train set and

2218
01:28:10,229 --> 01:28:08,400
it's it's the opposite of what is going

2219
01:28:13,910 --> 01:28:10,239
on in social media right now

2220
01:28:15,669 --> 01:28:13,920
and i looked forward to your labrador

2221
01:28:19,189 --> 01:28:15,679
and the train set each day

2222
01:28:19,669 --> 01:28:19,199
we need more of that we do we really do

2223
01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:19,679
uh

2224
01:28:23,110 --> 01:28:22,800
it i think we've forgotten the child in

2225
01:28:24,550 --> 01:28:23,120
us

2226
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:24,560
to tell you the truth and you know i'm

2227
01:28:27,750 --> 01:28:26,480
not tony roberts here or anything like

2228
01:28:29,590 --> 01:28:27,760
that i'm just

2229
01:28:31,430 --> 01:28:29,600
i do think we need to find the child in

2230
01:28:33,910 --> 01:28:31,440
our each and each and

2231
01:28:36,070 --> 01:28:33,920
our soul the innocence again and i have

2232
01:28:38,310 --> 01:28:36,080
a major major train set

2233
01:28:40,149 --> 01:28:38,320
i build it every year around the holiday

2234
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time and my labrador retriever who i

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just rescued

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about five months ago named kobe which

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we'll talk about in the next break

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loves to watch the trains with me at

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night it's the most

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damned amazing thing in my life i can't

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explain it except to say it's brought

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back a lot of the child in me and

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i'm i'm not a child anymore not

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physically i'm not but to find that

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wonder and innocence in yourself again

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that's why i wrote the children's book

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which we'll talk about after the break

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let's uh take our break right here our

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guest tonight roy

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firestone i'm your host jimmy church

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is roy firestone and roy um

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out of all of your books uh kobe and a

2341
01:34:10,950 --> 01:34:08,080
boy named

2342
01:34:12,070 --> 01:34:10,960
roy children's book comes out of

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seemingly

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nowhere and uh

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not only did it catch my attention i'm a

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01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:19,360
dad right

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01:34:24,870 --> 01:34:22,960
um very cool but what inspired you to do

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it

2349
01:34:28,629 --> 01:34:27,199
well kobe's passing had something to do

2350
01:34:29,750 --> 01:34:28,639
with the kobe bryant's passing had

2351
01:34:31,669 --> 01:34:29,760
something to do with it but

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there's something else going on here too

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01:34:36,310 --> 01:34:34,159
uh you know

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we're like everybody else i was shocked

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and you know

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absolutely devastated um by mo you know

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most everybody else you know maybe

2358
01:34:45,189 --> 01:34:43,199
people didn't like them but i mean

2359
01:34:48,629 --> 01:34:45,199
everyone was shocked i think

2360
01:34:52,470 --> 01:34:48,639
uh you know crushed by the the

2361
01:34:54,390 --> 01:34:52,480
the cruelty of how fast a life went

2362
01:34:55,990 --> 01:34:54,400
and also the other people in that

2363
01:34:58,629 --> 01:34:56,000
helicopter so

2364
01:35:00,790 --> 01:34:58,639
i'm i'm devastated i'm here in los

2365
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angeles it happened 15 minutes from my

2366
01:35:05,109 --> 01:35:01,440
house

2367
01:35:08,070 --> 01:35:05,119
the crash um then covet hit

2368
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and i i happen to live alone i have

2369
01:35:12,550 --> 01:35:09,520
grown kids

2370
01:35:14,390 --> 01:35:12,560
and i decided i'm saying my god i

2371
01:35:15,830 --> 01:35:14,400
don't think this is going to be easy for

2372
01:35:19,109 --> 01:35:15,840
me to deal with all this loss

2373
01:35:21,350 --> 01:35:19,119
and this and the isolation

2374
01:35:24,310 --> 01:35:21,360
uh it was about eight years before i

2375
01:35:26,149 --> 01:35:24,320
since i had had a dog i had a yellow lab

2376
01:35:28,070 --> 01:35:26,159
uh named sammy and by the way he was

2377
01:35:30,229 --> 01:35:28,080
named after sammy sosa

2378
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:30,239
and also sammy davis that's another

2379
01:35:35,910 --> 01:35:33,040
story sammy davis was a hero of mine

2380
01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:35,920
so i decided that i wanted to rescue a

2381
01:35:40,310 --> 01:35:37,440
dog and i did

2382
01:35:40,709 --> 01:35:40,320
and i named him kobe and he's a black

2383
01:35:43,830 --> 01:35:40,719
lab

2384
01:35:45,990 --> 01:35:43,840
and he is the love of my life and

2385
01:35:48,629 --> 01:35:46,000
ricky gervais hits it right on the nose

2386
01:35:51,990 --> 01:35:48,639
when he said my labrador retriever

2387
01:35:54,070 --> 01:35:52,000
thinks that any idea i have is the best

2388
01:35:55,990 --> 01:35:54,080
idea he's ever heard

2389
01:35:57,350 --> 01:35:56,000
there's something about a lab guys if

2390
01:35:58,070 --> 01:35:57,360
you if you're listening to this show and

2391
01:35:59,510 --> 01:35:58,080
you have

2392
01:36:02,310 --> 01:35:59,520
not that all dogs aren't great because

2393
01:36:04,470 --> 01:36:02,320
they are but labrador retrievers are a

2394
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:04,480
special breed man of loyalty and

2395
01:36:08,149 --> 01:36:05,600
sweetness

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01:36:10,070 --> 01:36:08,159
and they're always up for anything i did

2397
01:36:12,310 --> 01:36:10,080
a piece

2398
01:36:14,149 --> 01:36:12,320
excuse me about a week ago saying that

2399
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:14,159
this dog's taught me about life

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01:36:18,470 --> 01:36:17,040
and here's how i walk with him for nine

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01:36:21,350 --> 01:36:18,480
miles a day

2402
01:36:22,550 --> 01:36:21,360
and he can't wait for the next walk he's

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01:36:26,310 --> 01:36:22,560
never complaining about

2404
01:36:28,790 --> 01:36:26,320
eating the same damn food

2405
01:36:30,310 --> 01:36:28,800
every single day of his life he's not

2406
01:36:32,229 --> 01:36:30,320
complaining about having a drink out of

2407
01:36:34,550 --> 01:36:32,239
a toilet if he has to

2408
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:34,560
and i thought that's that's something to

2409
01:36:37,990 --> 01:36:36,480
not complain about something is pretty

2410
01:36:39,590 --> 01:36:38,000
cool but also

2411
01:36:41,270 --> 01:36:39,600
there's other dog he doesn't seem to

2412
01:36:43,109 --> 01:36:41,280
want to fight other dogs

2413
01:36:44,950 --> 01:36:43,119
there's a cat across the street

2414
01:36:47,430 --> 01:36:44,960
literally a calico

2415
01:36:48,870 --> 01:36:47,440
that he wanted to be friends with and

2416
01:36:50,470 --> 01:36:48,880
the cat doesn't like him

2417
01:36:52,550 --> 01:36:50,480
but he didn't know that he's supposed to

2418
01:36:55,430 --> 01:36:52,560
hate a cat because he's a dog

2419
01:36:56,709 --> 01:36:55,440
and i thought hey what a great lesson

2420
01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:56,719
about life

2421
01:37:02,229 --> 01:36:59,679
to not hate the cat across the street

2422
01:37:04,310 --> 01:37:02,239
which is sort of a metaphor for life

2423
01:37:06,070 --> 01:37:04,320
so all of this was happening to me and i

2424
01:37:07,189 --> 01:37:06,080
said i'm going to write a children's

2425
01:37:12,870 --> 01:37:07,199
book

2426
01:37:15,669 --> 01:37:12,880
uh that's what i'm talking about my most

2427
01:37:17,750 --> 01:37:15,679
recent book i had two others before that

2428
01:37:19,590 --> 01:37:17,760
and you know what jimmy this thing is

2429
01:37:21,910 --> 01:37:19,600
taken off this children's book it's

2430
01:37:25,030 --> 01:37:21,920
illustrated my sister is an illustrator

2431
01:37:26,950 --> 01:37:25,040
it's very winnie the poohest poohish

2432
01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:26,960
in the sense that it's about innocence

2433
01:37:31,189 --> 01:37:28,080
and wonder

2434
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:31,199
i think we need that and the dogs just

2435
01:37:35,430 --> 01:37:33,760
are the greatest and i don't quite get

2436
01:37:38,390 --> 01:37:35,440
unless somebody's been bitten

2437
01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:38,400
why people don't like dogs i i i feel

2438
01:37:42,790 --> 01:37:39,520
sorry for them

2439
01:37:46,229 --> 01:37:42,800
in a way this dog is the love of my life

2440
01:37:50,070 --> 01:37:46,239
and he's wise and sweet

2441
01:37:53,189 --> 01:37:50,080
and generous and keeps it simple

2442
01:37:54,709 --> 01:37:53,199
and he's never petty he's not he doesn't

2443
01:37:57,669 --> 01:37:54,719
stab anyone in the back

2444
01:37:58,870 --> 01:37:57,679
like human beings can do he's just

2445
01:38:02,149 --> 01:37:58,880
himself

2446
01:38:04,229 --> 01:38:02,159
and i learned a lot and i'm telling you

2447
01:38:05,750 --> 01:38:04,239
that hole that was in my heart after

2448
01:38:08,550 --> 01:38:05,760
losing kobe bryant

2449
01:38:09,030 --> 01:38:08,560
and then experiencing as all of us have

2450
01:38:12,310 --> 01:38:09,040
this

2451
01:38:14,070 --> 01:38:12,320
horrible time we're in with kovid that

2452
01:38:16,790 --> 01:38:14,080
you're not really alone in this world

2453
01:38:19,189 --> 01:38:16,800
that there's somebody out there in this

2454
01:38:20,470 --> 01:38:19,199
case it's not a somebody it's it's it's

2455
01:38:23,510 --> 01:38:20,480
a four-legged

2456
01:38:24,709 --> 01:38:23,520
mammal named kobe that can fill in a lot

2457
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:24,719
of the voids and

2458
01:38:27,510 --> 01:38:26,320
it's the best relationship i've ever had

2459
01:38:28,790 --> 01:38:27,520
but one other thing i was going to tell

2460
01:38:31,669 --> 01:38:28,800
you is he was 20 pounds

2461
01:38:32,390 --> 01:38:31,679
25 pounds overweight he was a fat fat

2462
01:38:36,470 --> 01:38:32,400
dog

2463
01:38:37,750 --> 01:38:36,480
and he was abandoned twice he's lost 23

2464
01:38:40,790 --> 01:38:37,760
pounds

2465
01:38:44,709 --> 01:38:40,800
and uh he does he feels whole now and

2466
01:38:47,669 --> 01:38:44,719
i feel like i have a pal that is

2467
01:38:48,870 --> 01:38:47,679
in my life that i relate to in my own

2468
01:38:51,030 --> 01:38:48,880
simple way and

2469
01:38:51,990 --> 01:38:51,040
and he keeps everything simple you know

2470
01:38:55,109 --> 01:38:52,000
just just

2471
01:38:57,910 --> 01:38:55,119
enjoy your meals enjoy your food

2472
01:38:58,229 --> 01:38:57,920
don't complain have a nice walk and

2473
01:38:59,510 --> 01:38:58,239
don't

2474
01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,520
just stay out of the garbage that's the

2475
01:39:02,470 --> 01:39:01,520
only my only criticism to stay out of

2476
01:39:05,109 --> 01:39:02,480
the car

2477
01:39:06,950 --> 01:39:05,119
which he has a problem doing tough book

2478
01:39:10,709 --> 01:39:06,960
to write

2479
01:39:13,270 --> 01:39:10,719
yeah you know as opposed to

2480
01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:13,280
that's what i'm talking about or you

2481
01:39:17,669 --> 01:39:14,000
know

2482
01:39:20,390 --> 01:39:17,679
that that but this is emotions right

2483
01:39:21,430 --> 01:39:20,400
it's a book really for between the ages

2484
01:39:23,830 --> 01:39:21,440
of two

2485
01:39:25,990 --> 01:39:23,840
and six and seven maybe it's a little

2486
01:39:26,390 --> 01:39:26,000
little child's book it's not an adult's

2487
01:39:29,030 --> 01:39:26,400
book

2488
01:39:29,750 --> 01:39:29,040
but the thing that's shocking is how

2489
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:29,760
many people

2490
01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:31,920
hearing my story said you know my dog

2491
01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:34,000
saved my life too when i adopted this

2492
01:39:38,310 --> 01:39:34,719
dog

2493
01:39:39,750 --> 01:39:38,320
and another woman said my husband died

2494
01:39:42,870 --> 01:39:39,760
of cancer last year i

2495
01:39:44,149 --> 01:39:42,880
adopted this dog it's it's it's it's a

2496
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:44,159
miracle

2497
01:39:48,950 --> 01:39:46,800
i just think that you know so much has

2498
01:39:50,790 --> 01:39:48,960
been written and said about dogs

2499
01:39:53,510 --> 01:39:50,800
the only thing that's horrible about

2500
01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,520
having a dog is having to say goodbye

2501
01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:55,840
that is something that is just hard to

2502
01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:58,000
explain to people who don't really get

2503
01:39:59,990 --> 01:39:58,480
it

2504
01:40:02,070 --> 01:40:00,000
when you have to say goodbye to an

2505
01:40:05,350 --> 01:40:02,080
animal oh my god it's

2506
01:40:07,669 --> 01:40:05,360
it's unlike any kind of human a loss

2507
01:40:09,030 --> 01:40:07,679
you've had in your life i say this

2508
01:40:12,149 --> 01:40:09,040
without hesitation

2509
01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:12,159
losing my first lab was as painful as

2510
01:40:16,790 --> 01:40:15,520
any loss i had in life it was that

2511
01:40:19,510 --> 01:40:16,800
painful because

2512
01:40:20,470 --> 01:40:19,520
there was an innocence to it it was you

2513
01:40:23,750 --> 01:40:20,480
know

2514
01:40:25,109 --> 01:40:23,760
unconditional love and when you have to

2515
01:40:27,669 --> 01:40:25,119
put that animal down

2516
01:40:29,590 --> 01:40:27,679
or you lose an animal to a disease you

2517
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:29,600
swear to god you'll never do it again

2518
01:40:33,750 --> 01:40:31,520
and i didn't do it for eight years and

2519
01:40:35,350 --> 01:40:33,760
then when i lost kobe bryant i say i we

2520
01:40:36,870 --> 01:40:35,360
we all lost cody ryan

2521
01:40:38,470 --> 01:40:36,880
and then when covet hit i said i'm

2522
01:40:39,590 --> 01:40:38,480
taking a chance folks if you're

2523
01:40:40,470 --> 01:40:39,600
listening to this show and you're

2524
01:40:43,590 --> 01:40:40,480
thinking about again

2525
01:40:45,430 --> 01:40:43,600
getting a dog get a dog get the dog

2526
01:40:46,629 --> 01:40:45,440
worry about everything else later

2527
01:40:50,070 --> 01:40:46,639
because you'll

2528
01:40:53,109 --> 01:40:50,080
never be sorry never now um you

2529
01:40:56,629 --> 01:40:53,119
you got kobe from a labrador

2530
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,639
rescue and that's where the proceeds of

2531
01:40:59,750 --> 01:40:57,920
this book is going to

2532
01:41:01,350 --> 01:40:59,760
right yeah and by the way if people are

2533
01:41:03,350 --> 01:41:01,360
listening to the show and want

2534
01:41:05,109 --> 01:41:03,360
me to sign the book i'm happy to do it

2535
01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:05,119
you could go to amazon i can't sign it

2536
01:41:07,510 --> 01:41:06,000
on amazon it's

2537
01:41:10,470 --> 01:41:07,520
copying a boy named roy's name of the

2538
01:41:13,030 --> 01:41:10,480
book but if you go to roy firestone.com

2539
01:41:14,790 --> 01:41:13,040
you get the book i'll circle back to you

2540
01:41:15,510 --> 01:41:14,800
and i'll get you a personal inscription

2541
01:41:17,270 --> 01:41:15,520
of the book

2542
01:41:18,870 --> 01:41:17,280
again it's for little kids it's not

2543
01:41:20,709 --> 01:41:18,880
really for adults it's not really a

2544
01:41:23,669 --> 01:41:20,719
story of me either it's a story of

2545
01:41:24,390 --> 01:41:23,679
a little boy who was lonely he lost his

2546
01:41:27,510 --> 01:41:24,400
friend

2547
01:41:29,990 --> 01:41:27,520
and he got a dog and it's his adventure

2548
01:41:32,310 --> 01:41:30,000
in that dog but go to my website roy

2549
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:32,320
firestone.com if you'd like the book

2550
01:41:35,510 --> 01:41:34,239
uh to buy it and i will sign it

2551
01:41:36,950 --> 01:41:35,520
personally for you and if you just want

2552
01:41:37,430 --> 01:41:36,960
to get it on amazon without getting

2553
01:41:40,229 --> 01:41:37,440
signed

2554
01:41:41,510 --> 01:41:40,239
we're on amazon as well yeah i've had

2555
01:41:42,790 --> 01:41:41,520
i've never had a reaction for i've

2556
01:41:44,229 --> 01:41:42,800
written four books now

2557
01:41:45,910 --> 01:41:44,239
i've never had a reaction like i have

2558
01:41:46,629 --> 01:41:45,920
for this book yeah i know and that says

2559
01:41:50,149 --> 01:41:46,639
a lot

2560
01:41:51,830 --> 01:41:50,159
and i want everybody it's very simple

2561
01:41:54,629 --> 01:41:51,840
the links for everything are

2562
01:41:56,149 --> 01:41:54,639
over on our website jimmychurchradio.com

2563
01:41:59,350 --> 01:41:56,159
uh roy you brought up

2564
01:42:02,470 --> 01:41:59,360
you brought up covid and

2565
01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:02,480
this is one of uh my concerns

2566
01:42:08,629 --> 01:42:05,600
if not globally of course is

2567
01:42:11,669 --> 01:42:08,639
what is going to happen with

2568
01:42:12,870 --> 01:42:11,679
entertainment not only sports and crowds

2569
01:42:14,870 --> 01:42:12,880
in the future

2570
01:42:17,030 --> 01:42:14,880
are we ever going to get back to where

2571
01:42:19,430 --> 01:42:17,040
we were it's going to take a while

2572
01:42:20,149 --> 01:42:19,440
jimmy it's going to take a while i mean

2573
01:42:28,790 --> 01:42:20,159
i

2574
01:42:31,430 --> 01:42:28,800
today and the lady says to me

2575
01:42:31,910 --> 01:42:31,440
i know you're upset i was upset i'm not

2576
01:42:34,550 --> 01:42:31,920
upset

2577
01:42:35,830 --> 01:42:34,560
i'm thrilled i'm so grateful that i got

2578
01:42:37,350 --> 01:42:35,840
this vaccine

2579
01:42:38,950 --> 01:42:37,360
i'm one of the first to get a vaccine

2580
01:42:40,790 --> 01:42:38,960
get another one coming in three weeks

2581
01:42:41,990 --> 01:42:40,800
i'm lucky that i was able to get a next

2582
01:42:46,390 --> 01:42:42,000
vaccine i said

2583
01:42:49,590 --> 01:42:46,400
i i'm so full of gratitude i and i now

2584
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:49,600
feel protected somewhat my second

2585
01:42:52,790 --> 01:42:52,080
uh vaccine will will really make me more

2586
01:42:54,870 --> 01:42:52,800
protected

2587
01:42:56,950 --> 01:42:54,880
but getting back to your point do you

2588
01:42:59,030 --> 01:42:56,960
really see a hundred thousand people in

2589
01:42:59,590 --> 01:42:59,040
ann arbor go to a michigan ohio state

2590
01:43:02,310 --> 01:42:59,600
game

2591
01:43:02,629 --> 01:43:02,320
in in october next year i don't no i

2592
01:43:06,790 --> 01:43:02,639
don't

2593
01:43:09,109 --> 01:43:06,800
the other person is across from you

2594
01:43:10,149 --> 01:43:09,119
if they've had a vaccine or didn't then

2595
01:43:10,470 --> 01:43:10,159
what are they going to do are they going

2596
01:43:13,990 --> 01:43:10,480
to

2597
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:14,000
you've had a vaccine

2598
01:43:17,830 --> 01:43:15,760
to get into the games is that going to

2599
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:17,840
happen and what about concerts

2600
01:43:20,950 --> 01:43:20,080
i mean if you're kenny loggins or if

2601
01:43:23,270 --> 01:43:20,960
you're jay-z

2602
01:43:25,430 --> 01:43:23,280
or whoever it is and you're used to 18

2603
01:43:28,709 --> 01:43:25,440
000 people coming to your show

2604
01:43:30,229 --> 01:43:28,719
and now maybe 60 people are not afraid

2605
01:43:31,430 --> 01:43:30,239
to come to your show

2606
01:43:32,550 --> 01:43:31,440
i mean it's going to change the

2607
01:43:34,070 --> 01:43:32,560
entertain i think we're going to see

2608
01:43:35,669 --> 01:43:34,080
more virtual entertainment i think

2609
01:43:38,390 --> 01:43:35,679
you'll see subscriptions

2610
01:43:39,030 --> 01:43:38,400
to concerts on zoom or whatever you call

2611
01:43:42,229 --> 01:43:39,040
that or

2612
01:43:45,270 --> 01:43:42,239
skype or some kind of virtual medium

2613
01:43:45,830 --> 01:43:45,280
but i i think it's going to be a long

2614
01:43:48,390 --> 01:43:45,840
time

2615
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:48,400
before we're back to what we think is

2616
01:43:53,350 --> 01:43:49,199
normal

2617
01:43:56,709 --> 01:43:53,360
you're going to see baseball teams

2618
01:43:59,270 --> 01:43:56,719
drop their their their free agent uh

2619
01:44:00,470 --> 01:43:59,280
you know shopping i think you're not

2620
01:44:02,070 --> 01:44:00,480
going to want to see

2621
01:44:03,590 --> 01:44:02,080
you're not going to see baseball teams

2622
01:44:05,830 --> 01:44:03,600
invest 5 10

2623
01:44:07,910 --> 01:44:05,840
10 years in a ballplayer because we

2624
01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:07,920
don't know where this thing is going

2625
01:44:11,270 --> 01:44:10,400
we're flying blind here do i am i

2626
01:44:16,629 --> 01:44:11,280
optimistic

2627
01:44:18,950 --> 01:44:16,639
the entertainment and the sports

2628
01:44:22,310 --> 01:44:18,960
business being back to normal

2629
01:44:23,270 --> 01:44:22,320
for for a while maybe years maybe more

2630
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:23,280
than one year may

2631
01:44:26,870 --> 01:44:24,480
you know people say oh well if

2632
01:44:28,950 --> 01:44:26,880
everyone's vaccinated by say july

2633
01:44:30,790 --> 01:44:28,960
august september we can go back i don't

2634
01:44:32,390 --> 01:44:30,800
know about that i think that people are

2635
01:44:34,070 --> 01:44:32,400
going to be thinking twice about going

2636
01:44:37,270 --> 01:44:34,080
to sporting events

2637
01:44:39,750 --> 01:44:37,280
and concerts um and to say nothing of

2638
01:44:41,430 --> 01:44:39,760
the fact that the prices are high too

2639
01:44:43,270 --> 01:44:41,440
you know why would i want to roll the

2640
01:44:43,590 --> 01:44:43,280
dice to go to that show i'll stay home

2641
01:44:45,910 --> 01:44:43,600
and

2642
01:44:47,109 --> 01:44:45,920
read a book or watch tv i think you're

2643
01:44:50,950 --> 01:44:47,119
going to see

2644
01:44:51,590 --> 01:44:50,960
a a real hesitation on the part of the

2645
01:44:54,310 --> 01:44:51,600
buying

2646
01:44:55,189 --> 01:44:54,320
public the spectator public to go into

2647
01:44:58,550 --> 01:44:55,199
sporting events

2648
01:44:59,109 --> 01:44:58,560
concerts broadway my goodness i don't

2649
01:45:01,189 --> 01:44:59,119
know

2650
01:45:02,550 --> 01:45:01,199
we are an unchartered territory we don't

2651
01:45:04,790 --> 01:45:02,560
know where we're going

2652
01:45:05,669 --> 01:45:04,800
but it's it's not going to be the way it

2653
01:45:08,709 --> 01:45:05,679
was for a

2654
01:45:10,709 --> 01:45:08,719
long long time when i

2655
01:45:12,550 --> 01:45:10,719
i would go into the studios over at

2656
01:45:15,030 --> 01:45:12,560
premiere as you know fox

2657
01:45:16,629 --> 01:45:15,040
sports right there in in sherman oaks

2658
01:45:17,510 --> 01:45:16,639
and our studios are on the fifth floor

2659
01:45:20,950 --> 01:45:17,520
of that building

2660
01:45:23,590 --> 01:45:20,960
right and walking through there

2661
01:45:24,709 --> 01:45:23,600
there's no employees that's it it's a

2662
01:45:28,950 --> 01:45:24,719
ghost town

2663
01:45:31,189 --> 01:45:28,960
and every door has got a a biohazard

2664
01:45:33,750 --> 01:45:31,199
warning on it every studio

2665
01:45:34,550 --> 01:45:33,760
uh clean your microphones bring this do

2666
01:45:37,750 --> 01:45:34,560
this

2667
01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:37,760
everything and and i i felt

2668
01:45:43,910 --> 01:45:41,360
right i felt like i was in a crazy movie

2669
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:43,920
but but it was for real does it feel the

2670
01:45:47,270 --> 01:45:45,280
same for you

2671
01:45:49,109 --> 01:45:47,280
yes and here but here's an interesting

2672
01:45:50,790 --> 01:45:49,119
thing i'm going to take a different tact

2673
01:45:53,990 --> 01:45:50,800
on this though

2674
01:45:56,149 --> 01:45:54,000
i think we have a chance to to change

2675
01:45:57,270 --> 01:45:56,159
the way we connect with people with

2676
01:45:59,270 --> 01:45:57,280
these zoom

2677
01:46:00,870 --> 01:45:59,280
things and these skype things and these

2678
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:00,880
video conferencing

2679
01:46:04,950 --> 01:46:02,800
i've had people in my life who haven't

2680
01:46:07,510 --> 01:46:04,960
seen in years

2681
01:46:08,070 --> 01:46:07,520
maybe decades and i have a weekly zoom

2682
01:46:10,229 --> 01:46:08,080
with them

2683
01:46:11,830 --> 01:46:10,239
i have about four or five zooms i say

2684
01:46:13,590 --> 01:46:11,840
zoom i'm using a generic term

2685
01:46:15,270 --> 01:46:13,600
skype zoom whatever your facetime

2686
01:46:17,590 --> 01:46:15,280
whatever you want to call it

2687
01:46:19,750 --> 01:46:17,600
i think there's a chance there could be

2688
01:46:21,750 --> 01:46:19,760
a a positive

2689
01:46:24,149 --> 01:46:21,760
in the respect of talking to people

2690
01:46:27,109 --> 01:46:24,159
again to see their face again

2691
01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:27,119
my son and his wife just gave birth to

2692
01:46:29,990 --> 01:46:27,440
their

2693
01:46:31,990 --> 01:46:30,000
my first grandchild i got to see i'm

2694
01:46:34,709 --> 01:46:32,000
watching this child every day

2695
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:34,719
now i couldn't have done that in 1985.

2696
01:46:37,510 --> 01:46:35,520
you know

2697
01:46:38,950 --> 01:46:37,520
he lives in san francisco i live i live

2698
01:46:40,229 --> 01:46:38,960
in los angeles

2699
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:40,239
so i'm getting a chance to see my

2700
01:46:45,030 --> 01:46:42,880
grandchild almost every night

2701
01:46:46,310 --> 01:46:45,040
and i get to see what it's like to feed

2702
01:46:48,550 --> 01:46:46,320
him with my son

2703
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:48,560
and he's you know as he's panicked he

2704
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:50,080
says he won't stop crying

2705
01:46:53,350 --> 01:46:52,320
i said just just keep talking we're

2706
01:46:55,910 --> 01:46:53,360
sitting there on the phone

2707
01:46:58,310 --> 01:46:55,920
video phone so there is a i don't know

2708
01:47:00,709 --> 01:46:58,320
if silver lining is the right phrase but

2709
01:47:02,629 --> 01:47:00,719
there is a plus we might have a chance

2710
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:02,639
to communicate better again

2711
01:47:06,470 --> 01:47:05,040
as people which i think would be a great

2712
01:47:08,070 --> 01:47:06,480
a really good thing

2713
01:47:09,669 --> 01:47:08,080
and but i do think things are going to

2714
01:47:10,149 --> 01:47:09,679
be dramatically changed and i tell you

2715
01:47:14,070 --> 01:47:10,159
that

2716
01:47:16,390 --> 01:47:14,080
are people who are

2717
01:47:18,470 --> 01:47:16,400
landlords i don't mean just i don't mean

2718
01:47:21,189 --> 01:47:18,480
just landlords for apartments or

2719
01:47:22,390 --> 01:47:21,199
you know condominiums i'm talking about

2720
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:22,400
buildings

2721
01:47:26,310 --> 01:47:25,520
anymore there's not going to be a big

2722
01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:26,320
demand to

2723
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:28,000
to buy a building or construct a

2724
01:47:31,189 --> 01:47:29,440
building that's the

2725
01:47:32,470 --> 01:47:31,199
that's the people who should really be

2726
01:47:35,590 --> 01:47:32,480
worried i

2727
01:47:39,189 --> 01:47:35,600
you know i think about ventura boulevard

2728
01:47:41,510 --> 01:47:39,199
right i think about these the the

2729
01:47:42,310 --> 01:47:41,520
sacrifices and the things that are going

2730
01:47:44,950 --> 01:47:42,320
on

2731
01:47:46,790 --> 01:47:44,960
and eventually we're going to get back

2732
01:47:49,990 --> 01:47:46,800
to something that seems

2733
01:47:53,109 --> 01:47:50,000
normal but the damage that has been

2734
01:47:54,149 --> 01:47:53,119
done i have i have no idea

2735
01:47:56,629 --> 01:47:54,159
i don't know how we're going to dig

2736
01:47:58,310 --> 01:47:56,639
ourselves out of this i i do know though

2737
01:47:59,590 --> 01:47:58,320
that we'll find we're going to find some

2738
01:48:01,669 --> 01:47:59,600
kind of way

2739
01:48:04,310 --> 01:48:01,679
but you know for every door that closes

2740
01:48:06,310 --> 01:48:04,320
another one opens in some other capacity

2741
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:06,320
and maybe there'll be a new world maybe

2742
01:48:12,310 --> 01:48:08,960
we'll you know you you're doing a show

2743
01:48:14,070 --> 01:48:12,320
audio wise uh on skype

2744
01:48:15,669 --> 01:48:14,080
but there'll be a lot of television

2745
01:48:18,149 --> 01:48:15,679
shows on skype you might see

2746
01:48:19,510 --> 01:48:18,159
a thousand uh you think there's a lot of

2747
01:48:21,750 --> 01:48:19,520
people with podcasts

2748
01:48:23,350 --> 01:48:21,760
how about a thousand tv hosts every

2749
01:48:24,950 --> 01:48:23,360
night you can watch almost anything you

2750
01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:24,960
want in conversation

2751
01:48:30,550 --> 01:48:28,320
i mean the pay ain't gonna be great but

2752
01:48:32,149 --> 01:48:30,560
there'll be people with opportunities to

2753
01:48:34,070 --> 01:48:32,159
communicate using their skills

2754
01:48:36,229 --> 01:48:34,080
that couldn't get on the air if their

2755
01:48:38,950 --> 01:48:36,239
life depended on it before this

2756
01:48:39,910 --> 01:48:38,960
so there's going to be changes there's

2757
01:48:43,590 --> 01:48:39,920
going to be

2758
01:48:46,310 --> 01:48:43,600
permanent changes in some areas but

2759
01:48:47,669 --> 01:48:46,320
we have to adapt humanity has to adapt

2760
01:48:50,950 --> 01:48:47,679
and find a way

2761
01:48:52,790 --> 01:48:50,960
uh to survive uh or die and i

2762
01:48:54,470 --> 01:48:52,800
i think we're going to i think we're

2763
01:48:57,669 --> 01:48:54,480
going to find a way

2764
01:48:58,470 --> 01:48:57,679
i do i the entertainment side of things

2765
01:48:59,990 --> 01:48:58,480
and the music

2766
01:49:01,750 --> 01:49:00,000
side of things i come from that

2767
01:49:03,830 --> 01:49:01,760
background and

2768
01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:03,840
i don't know about the focus of the

2769
01:49:08,709 --> 01:49:06,320
future we all need to adapt

2770
01:49:09,590 --> 01:49:08,719
and i think that you're bringing up a

2771
01:49:13,350 --> 01:49:09,600
great point

2772
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:13,360
and this is about you now you

2773
01:49:17,189 --> 01:49:16,159
have been given an uh a singing voice

2774
01:49:19,170 --> 01:49:17,199
from god

2775
01:49:20,709 --> 01:49:19,180
mostly now now and

2776
01:49:23,830 --> 01:49:20,719
[Laughter]

2777
01:49:27,189 --> 01:49:23,840
you laugh i wish i had that voice

2778
01:49:28,070 --> 01:49:27,199
trust me i don't but have you ever

2779
01:49:31,910 --> 01:49:28,080
thought of not

2780
01:49:35,109 --> 01:49:31,920
not about turning back time but

2781
01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:35,119
where where's your passion in that

2782
01:49:41,990 --> 01:49:38,400
is it is it music it was was

2783
01:49:44,550 --> 01:49:42,000
the interview was that an accident

2784
01:49:46,390 --> 01:49:44,560
that god got in the way of another

2785
01:49:48,870 --> 01:49:46,400
career

2786
01:49:50,709 --> 01:49:48,880
well uh you've over you've turned over a

2787
01:49:52,629 --> 01:49:50,719
rock that i never really talked that

2788
01:49:53,669 --> 01:49:52,639
much about because it sounds

2789
01:49:55,830 --> 01:49:53,679
self-indulgent

2790
01:49:57,189 --> 01:49:55,840
and it sounds whatever you want to call

2791
01:50:00,070 --> 01:49:57,199
it but music

2792
01:50:02,149 --> 01:50:00,080
is my life music is my passion um i do

2793
01:50:03,830 --> 01:50:02,159
sing i'm a professional

2794
01:50:05,350 --> 01:50:03,840
uh performer i've gone all over the

2795
01:50:08,629 --> 01:50:05,360
country i've done over 2000

2796
01:50:10,709 --> 01:50:08,639
shows it's not all music it's vocal

2797
01:50:12,550 --> 01:50:10,719
impressions it's storytelling

2798
01:50:15,109 --> 01:50:12,560
it's a little garrison keeler in there

2799
01:50:17,430 --> 01:50:15,119
there's a little bit of uh

2800
01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,440
i don't know danny gans i don't know if

2801
01:50:20,390 --> 01:50:19,040
people remember danny gans there's a

2802
01:50:22,229 --> 01:50:20,400
little bit of that there's a little bit

2803
01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:22,239
of my experiences in sports and i've

2804
01:50:26,790 --> 01:50:23,520
done this show

2805
01:50:28,790 --> 01:50:26,800
for literally thousands of clients and

2806
01:50:29,990 --> 01:50:28,800
that is my real passion my passion is

2807
01:50:31,109 --> 01:50:30,000
getting in front of an audience and

2808
01:50:35,510 --> 01:50:31,119
connecting with people

2809
01:50:37,350 --> 01:50:35,520
musically storytelling comedy voice work

2810
01:50:39,270 --> 01:50:37,360
if i could connect and that's really why

2811
01:50:40,229 --> 01:50:39,280
i became a broadcaster i needed to find

2812
01:50:43,510 --> 01:50:40,239
a way to connect

2813
01:50:44,310 --> 01:50:43,520
and uh i'm still connecting using social

2814
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:44,320
media and i'm

2815
01:50:50,070 --> 01:50:47,920
doing a lot of shows now but uh i miss

2816
01:50:51,589 --> 01:50:50,080
getting up there in front of people i

2817
01:50:53,430 --> 01:50:51,599
can understand what people who've made

2818
01:50:55,750 --> 01:50:53,440
careers and lives out of

2819
01:50:56,950 --> 01:50:55,760
you know being singers and entertainers

2820
01:51:00,470 --> 01:50:56,960
they've got to be

2821
01:51:02,149 --> 01:51:00,480
climbing the ceiling right now because

2822
01:51:04,149 --> 01:51:02,159
we don't know what's going to happen on

2823
01:51:06,149 --> 01:51:04,159
the other side but you did touch on

2824
01:51:08,149 --> 01:51:06,159
something i really love music more than

2825
01:51:10,149 --> 01:51:08,159
anything including sports

2826
01:51:11,189 --> 01:51:10,159
i'd rather talk about music rather talk

2827
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:11,199
about artists

2828
01:51:15,109 --> 01:51:12,719
i'd rather interview those kind of

2829
01:51:17,750 --> 01:51:15,119
people i love talking about

2830
01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:17,760
the lyrics of songs the melodies of

2831
01:51:24,310 --> 01:51:19,760
songs and who are the greats and

2832
01:51:26,310 --> 01:51:24,320
i'd rather you know i'd rather you know

2833
01:51:27,910 --> 01:51:26,320
i'd rather talk to about frank sinatra

2834
01:51:29,030 --> 01:51:27,920
than frank thomas let me put it to you

2835
01:51:31,109 --> 01:51:29,040
that way i i

2836
01:51:32,950 --> 01:51:31,119
it's not that frank thomas isn't fun and

2837
01:51:34,870 --> 01:51:32,960
interesting and great guests to have on

2838
01:51:37,669 --> 01:51:34,880
the show but i would rather

2839
01:51:38,310 --> 01:51:37,679
just be on the journey with the greatest

2840
01:51:40,790 --> 01:51:38,320
singer

2841
01:51:42,790 --> 01:51:40,800
to me of the 20th century or certainly

2842
01:51:45,669 --> 01:51:42,800
one of them in frank sinatra

2843
01:51:47,430 --> 01:51:45,679
to talk about people who just when they

2844
01:51:48,149 --> 01:51:47,440
when they open their mouth and sing like

2845
01:51:51,189 --> 01:51:48,159
billy joel

2846
01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:51,199
elton john before that elvis and

2847
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:53,440
you know all these what you know leslie

2848
01:51:58,310 --> 01:51:55,280
odom jr did a

2849
01:52:00,310 --> 01:51:58,320
this movie called a one night in miami

2850
01:52:02,310 --> 01:52:00,320
i think it was called it's it's on

2851
01:52:04,229 --> 01:52:02,320
amazon right now and it's about muhammad

2852
01:52:07,510 --> 01:52:04,239
ali knocking out sonny liston and

2853
01:52:09,270 --> 01:52:07,520
being around sam cook sam cook again for

2854
01:52:10,950 --> 01:52:09,280
this is a probably a younger audience

2855
01:52:13,430 --> 01:52:10,960
they probably never heard of sam cook

2856
01:52:13,990 --> 01:52:13,440
but this guy did such a great job as sam

2857
01:52:16,149 --> 01:52:14,000
cook

2858
01:52:17,189 --> 01:52:16,159
i think he stole the movie i love

2859
01:52:19,350 --> 01:52:17,199
talking about music

2860
01:52:20,310 --> 01:52:19,360
i love listening to music i love singing

2861
01:52:22,070 --> 01:52:20,320
i think singing

2862
01:52:23,990 --> 01:52:22,080
puts me in a place that nothing else

2863
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:24,000
could put me not even sports

2864
01:52:28,709 --> 01:52:26,159
and i like to think i could hold the

2865
01:52:31,189 --> 01:52:28,719
tune i have a cd out it's also on my

2866
01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:31,199
website too it's done very nicely

2867
01:52:34,390 --> 01:52:32,800
um i don't pretend that i'm the best

2868
01:52:34,870 --> 01:52:34,400
singer in the world but i think i'm

2869
01:52:40,390 --> 01:52:34,880
pretty

2870
01:52:41,350 --> 01:52:40,400
i'm singing and i'm happiest when i'm

2871
01:52:43,109 --> 01:52:41,360
around music

2872
01:52:44,950 --> 01:52:43,119
and that's the truth you're being very

2873
01:52:46,310 --> 01:52:44,960
humble man you've got you've got some

2874
01:52:49,669 --> 01:52:46,320
serious pipes

2875
01:52:53,270 --> 01:52:49,679
thank you when when did you find out

2876
01:52:55,189 --> 01:52:53,280
that you could sing were you five six

2877
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:55,199
i i you you really wanted to know the

2878
01:52:59,350 --> 01:52:56,320
truth i never

2879
01:53:02,070 --> 01:52:59,360
really sang in public on a stage

2880
01:53:03,109 --> 01:53:02,080
always hid behind the impressions i hid

2881
01:53:07,350 --> 01:53:03,119
behind

2882
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:07,360
look at me i'm as helpless

2883
01:53:11,350 --> 01:53:09,760
you know johnny mathis i could sing like

2884
01:53:13,109 --> 01:53:11,360
johnny mathis but that way i wouldn't

2885
01:53:14,629 --> 01:53:13,119
have to show my real voice so i can make

2886
01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:14,639
people laugh and applaud

2887
01:53:19,109 --> 01:53:16,560
but meanwhile i was singing then i would

2888
01:53:21,189 --> 01:53:19,119
do neil diamond and i would do

2889
01:53:22,790 --> 01:53:21,199
bits with the bee gees and i'd do gordon

2890
01:53:25,510 --> 01:53:22,800
lightfoot and i'd sing

2891
01:53:25,990 --> 01:53:25,520
like smokey robinson all his impressions

2892
01:53:27,990 --> 01:53:26,000
but it was

2893
01:53:29,030 --> 01:53:28,000
done for a reason so i wouldn't have to

2894
01:53:30,629 --> 01:53:29,040
show my real voice

2895
01:53:32,149 --> 01:53:30,639
but at the end of the show i sing in my

2896
01:53:32,790 --> 01:53:32,159
real voice whatever you want to call

2897
01:53:35,910 --> 01:53:32,800
real

2898
01:53:39,669 --> 01:53:35,920
right and um it's it's such

2899
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:39,679
a visceral indescribable feeling to sing

2900
01:53:43,430 --> 01:53:41,920
if you're singing well and you're you're

2901
01:53:45,589 --> 01:53:43,440
in good voice

2902
01:53:46,790 --> 01:53:45,599
i mean i i understand why people like

2903
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,800
josh groban and

2904
01:53:50,629 --> 01:53:49,280
michael buble and all these people

2905
01:53:52,070 --> 01:53:50,639
beyonce every one of these

2906
01:53:53,510 --> 01:53:52,080
they would rather sing than just about

2907
01:53:54,310 --> 01:53:53,520
anything else in their lives i

2908
01:53:56,629 --> 01:53:54,320
understand

2909
01:53:57,430 --> 01:53:56,639
it comes back from the very most primal

2910
01:54:00,229 --> 01:53:57,440
place

2911
01:54:01,510 --> 01:54:00,239
in our souls to sing to utter something

2912
01:54:04,550 --> 01:54:01,520
musical man

2913
01:54:06,070 --> 01:54:04,560
and uh i'm just lucky that i had the

2914
01:54:08,790 --> 01:54:06,080
sports vehicle to get me

2915
01:54:10,229 --> 01:54:08,800
out on a stage that i could sing so in a

2916
01:54:11,990 --> 01:54:10,239
way it was in reverse

2917
01:54:14,229 --> 01:54:12,000
i had to have the sports career first to

2918
01:54:16,229 --> 01:54:14,239
give me some credibility to get on stage

2919
01:54:18,310 --> 01:54:16,239
and then from that point it's all up to

2920
01:54:19,750 --> 01:54:18,320
me now this is what's really funny i'm

2921
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:19,760
just going to say this to the audience

2922
01:54:23,910 --> 01:54:20,400
you don't have

2923
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:23,920
but

2924
01:54:27,910 --> 01:54:27,280
listening to you speak and to hear me

2925
01:54:30,790 --> 01:54:27,920
say

2926
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,800
you do barry gibb better than barry gibb

2927
01:54:35,669 --> 01:54:32,159
right

2928
01:54:39,030 --> 01:54:35,679
nobody would buy into that did you see

2929
01:54:40,950 --> 01:54:39,040
the new beaches documentary yesterday

2930
01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:40,960
yes i did jimmy and not only that how

2931
01:54:45,669 --> 01:54:42,639
about this the gibbs

2932
01:54:47,109 --> 01:54:45,679
barry gibb lived across the street from

2933
01:54:49,589 --> 01:54:47,119
me in miami

2934
01:54:50,390 --> 01:54:49,599
and my mother my late mother used to say

2935
01:54:52,629 --> 01:54:50,400
honey

2936
01:54:54,790 --> 01:54:52,639
there are those three lovely ghibi boys

2937
01:54:57,589 --> 01:54:54,800
that she called them the ghibi boys

2938
01:54:58,950 --> 01:54:57,599
i said mom those are the bee gees she

2939
01:55:00,390 --> 01:54:58,960
goes well with that they're they're

2940
01:55:01,830 --> 01:55:00,400
you know they're from england i said

2941
01:55:03,270 --> 01:55:01,840
well actually they're australian but

2942
01:55:05,350 --> 01:55:03,280
they were drew from england

2943
01:55:06,950 --> 01:55:05,360
she goes well he i was walking like the

2944
01:55:07,750 --> 01:55:06,960
dog the other day and i ran into the

2945
01:55:11,270 --> 01:55:07,760
ghibi and

2946
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:11,280
his name isn't geby it's barry gibb

2947
01:55:15,669 --> 01:55:13,840
but i did see the documentary it was

2948
01:55:17,589 --> 01:55:15,679
very touching to me

2949
01:55:18,870 --> 01:55:17,599
i think that people really had a

2950
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:18,880
tendency to

2951
01:55:24,470 --> 01:55:22,000
underrate the bee gees because they were

2952
01:55:26,390 --> 01:55:24,480
dismissed as this disco band which they

2953
01:55:27,430 --> 01:55:26,400
never really were a disco but they had

2954
01:55:30,629 --> 01:55:27,440
one

2955
01:55:32,310 --> 01:55:30,639
period in their careers where they used

2956
01:55:33,669 --> 01:55:32,320
some quota in quote discord because the

2957
01:55:34,550 --> 01:55:33,679
saturday night fever which ended up

2958
01:55:36,390 --> 01:55:34,560
becoming

2959
01:55:37,830 --> 01:55:36,400
one of the greatest selling records i

2960
01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:37,840
think still is the greatest selling

2961
01:55:41,669 --> 01:55:39,360
soundtrack of all time

2962
01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:41,679
but people have had a tendency to

2963
01:55:45,109 --> 01:55:42,960
dismiss them

2964
01:55:47,430 --> 01:55:45,119
they were as big or bigger than just

2965
01:55:49,109 --> 01:55:47,440
about any band in the history of rock

2966
01:55:51,510 --> 01:55:49,119
and roll or pop music

2967
01:55:52,790 --> 01:55:51,520
and barry deserves a lot of credit i

2968
01:55:55,109 --> 01:55:52,800
thought it was a very moving

2969
01:55:57,430 --> 01:55:55,119
and inspiring documentary i have

2970
01:55:58,310 --> 01:55:57,440
tremendous respect for them that great

2971
01:56:00,790 --> 01:55:58,320
great songs

2972
01:56:01,669 --> 01:56:00,800
i'll tell you one other thing um randy

2973
01:56:03,669 --> 01:56:01,679
newman who

2974
01:56:06,229 --> 01:56:03,679
was no slouch as a songwriter one of the

2975
01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:06,239
greats he said the one thing he regrets

2976
01:56:10,070 --> 01:56:08,239
is he didn't write a song like how deep

2977
01:56:10,709 --> 01:56:10,080
is your love he thought how deep is your

2978
01:56:12,629 --> 01:56:10,719
love

2979
01:56:14,870 --> 01:56:12,639
is one of the greatest most underrated

2980
01:56:16,070 --> 01:56:14,880
pop songs of all time and he's sorry he

2981
01:56:19,430 --> 01:56:16,080
didn't write it

2982
01:56:23,189 --> 01:56:19,440
the uh the documentary

2983
01:56:25,350 --> 01:56:23,199
i don't watch movies about dogs i don't

2984
01:56:26,870 --> 01:56:25,360
mean either it's got a bad ending right

2985
01:56:30,470 --> 01:56:26,880
there's always a

2986
01:56:33,589 --> 01:56:30,480
there's and the bg's documentary

2987
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:33,599
took me there it that was that was that

2988
01:56:37,990 --> 01:56:34,719
was rough

2989
01:56:38,790 --> 01:56:38,000
gibbon for those who didn't see it it's

2990
01:56:41,510 --> 01:56:38,800
on hbo

2991
01:56:42,870 --> 01:56:41,520
you'll probably get it somewhere he said

2992
01:56:44,790 --> 01:56:42,880
he'd give it all back

2993
01:56:46,149 --> 01:56:44,800
all of it all the fame all the money all

2994
01:56:47,189 --> 01:56:46,159
the everything to have his brothers

2995
01:56:49,189 --> 01:56:47,199
alive

2996
01:56:51,510 --> 01:56:49,199
and you know they're all gone his andy

2997
01:56:54,629 --> 01:56:51,520
gibb was a young brother he died

2998
01:57:00,870 --> 01:56:54,639
maurice um you know mo died

2999
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:02,070
let me just tell you one other thing a

3000
01:57:05,750 --> 01:57:03,920
little anecdote i did a story on

3001
01:57:07,910 --> 01:57:05,760
how deep is your love the song how deep

3002
01:57:09,430 --> 01:57:07,920
is your love they didn't even like they

3003
01:57:12,310 --> 01:57:09,440
didn't want to record it

3004
01:57:14,390 --> 01:57:12,320
they did it as a demo and then finally

3005
01:57:16,149 --> 01:57:14,400
stigwood who was their manager said

3006
01:57:17,430 --> 01:57:16,159
you're not giving this to anyone you

3007
01:57:19,430 --> 01:57:17,440
guys are going to do it

3008
01:57:21,350 --> 01:57:19,440
that barry and robin's are singing in

3009
01:57:23,510 --> 01:57:21,360
unison unison

3010
01:57:25,589 --> 01:57:23,520
in that song and it sounds like one

3011
01:57:26,470 --> 01:57:25,599
voice that's how good those voices were

3012
01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:26,480
together

3013
01:57:31,109 --> 01:57:29,520
they were spectacular vocalists and they

3014
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:31,119
had great arrangements

3015
01:57:36,629 --> 01:57:34,239
and that is one of the truly great songs

3016
01:57:37,990 --> 01:57:36,639
the second half in my opinion pop songs

3017
01:57:41,030 --> 01:57:38,000
of the second half of the 20th

3018
01:57:43,270 --> 01:57:41,040
century truly a great song and the bg's

3019
01:57:46,310 --> 01:57:43,280
deserve nothing but great credit i'm a

3020
01:57:48,149 --> 01:57:46,320
huge fan of theirs and uh

3021
01:57:49,430 --> 01:57:48,159
i i feel for barry gibb because i

3022
01:57:50,149 --> 01:57:49,440
understand what he was saying he's

3023
01:57:52,390 --> 01:57:50,159
saying you know

3024
01:57:53,830 --> 01:57:52,400
life goes by and all the riches and all

3025
01:57:55,669 --> 01:57:53,840
the fame and all the acclaim and all the

3026
01:57:56,870 --> 01:57:55,679
trophies and the awards are great but if

3027
01:57:57,589 --> 01:57:56,880
you don't have your family you don't

3028
01:58:00,070 --> 01:57:57,599
have people

3029
01:58:01,910 --> 01:58:00,080
you love around you none of it matters

3030
01:58:03,830 --> 01:58:01,920
let's take our break right here our

3031
01:58:05,990 --> 01:58:03,840
guest tonight the one and only roy

3032
01:58:08,629 --> 01:58:06,000
firestone we're talking about the art

3033
01:58:10,229 --> 01:58:08,639
of talk we squeezed in some music though

3034
01:58:13,030 --> 01:58:10,239
got a little sports in

3035
01:58:15,189 --> 01:58:13,040
more with roy after this short break i'm

3036
01:58:23,430 --> 01:58:15,199
yours jimmy church this is fade to black

3037
01:58:31,030 --> 01:58:24,870
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3038
01:58:34,629 --> 01:58:33,510
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3040
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3045
01:58:49,830 --> 01:58:47,360
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3046
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i really love ponies i'm serious i

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couldn't stay sane without pawnings to

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3110
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3111
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this is fade to black with jimmy church

3112
02:01:50,290 --> 02:01:45,440
on the game changer radio network

3113
02:02:01,830 --> 02:01:50,300
and kgra the global radio alliance

3114
02:02:05,669 --> 02:02:03,589
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

3115
02:02:06,790 --> 02:02:05,679
jimmy church on the game changer network

3116
02:02:09,350 --> 02:02:06,800
and kg r

3117
02:02:11,270 --> 02:02:09,360
a the planet our guest tonight roy

3118
02:02:13,669 --> 02:02:11,280
firestone

3119
02:02:15,270 --> 02:02:13,679
you can follow roy on twitter at roy

3120
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firestone you can find him over on

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facebook and hang out there and of

3122
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course you can follow me on twitter too

3123
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as well

3124
02:02:23,990 --> 02:02:22,080
at j church radio now roy i

3125
02:02:25,189 --> 02:02:24,000
write i i want to take you out of your

3126
02:02:28,229 --> 02:02:25,199
comfort zone

3127
02:02:31,030 --> 02:02:28,239
for a minute okay and

3128
02:02:33,030 --> 02:02:31,040
uh i'm going to go back to larry king

3129
02:02:36,790 --> 02:02:33,040
for a second

3130
02:02:39,910 --> 02:02:36,800
larry uh he would do

3131
02:02:43,750 --> 02:02:39,920
a few times a year on cnn

3132
02:02:47,189 --> 02:02:43,760
he would do a special on ufos

3133
02:02:50,550 --> 02:02:47,199
okay he bring on shirley maclaine and

3134
02:02:53,350 --> 02:02:50,560
and and do all of this stuff well as

3135
02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:53,360
that that was that was my passion too as

3136
02:02:56,870 --> 02:02:53,679
well

3137
02:02:59,430 --> 02:02:56,880
as it's sports and music and things

3138
02:03:01,350 --> 02:02:59,440
and i'm in school for broadcasting and i

3139
02:03:03,830 --> 02:03:01,360
thought if larry can do it

3140
02:03:05,990 --> 02:03:03,840
i can do it i can combine everything on

3141
02:03:08,229 --> 02:03:06,000
the show i just want to be me

3142
02:03:09,109 --> 02:03:08,239
and i'm in school for broadcasting here

3143
02:03:12,470 --> 02:03:09,119
in la

3144
02:03:13,109 --> 02:03:12,480
and one of our teachers was from cnn i'm

3145
02:03:15,830 --> 02:03:13,119
not going to

3146
02:03:17,270 --> 02:03:15,840
say who it was but i said to him they

3147
02:03:21,589 --> 02:03:17,280
said hey

3148
02:03:23,510 --> 02:03:21,599
if you had a a story on a ufo

3149
02:03:25,030 --> 02:03:23,520
would you take it to your news director

3150
02:03:26,830 --> 02:03:25,040
what would happen he goes no i would

3151
02:03:28,229 --> 02:03:26,840
never do it that's the kiss of death and

3152
02:03:31,189 --> 02:03:28,239
broadcasting right

3153
02:03:32,310 --> 02:03:31,199
i thought yeah i thought well larry king

3154
02:03:35,910 --> 02:03:32,320
does it

3155
02:03:36,709 --> 02:03:35,920
you know on cnn um and and i thought

3156
02:03:40,149 --> 02:03:36,719
about that

3157
02:03:41,750 --> 02:03:40,159
so much then my career took me

3158
02:03:43,910 --> 02:03:41,760
where i needed it to go and everything

3159
02:03:47,109 --> 02:03:43,920
was fine with it

3160
02:03:50,069 --> 02:03:47,119
but now fox

3161
02:03:51,189 --> 02:03:50,079
cnn and all of the major media networks

3162
02:03:53,669 --> 02:03:51,199
around the world

3163
02:03:54,550 --> 02:03:53,679
over the last couple of years talk about

3164
02:03:58,149 --> 02:03:54,560
ufos

3165
02:04:00,310 --> 02:03:58,159
every single day what

3166
02:04:01,350 --> 02:04:00,320
ultimately what's what do you think is

3167
02:04:04,310 --> 02:04:01,360
going on there

3168
02:04:05,830 --> 02:04:04,320
why suddenly you know the search for

3169
02:04:07,990 --> 02:04:05,840
et's and alien

3170
02:04:09,430 --> 02:04:08,000
intelligence and all of this stuff has

3171
02:04:12,390 --> 02:04:09,440
got to pass

3172
02:04:12,950 --> 02:04:12,400
you know a hall pass i used to think

3173
02:04:17,430 --> 02:04:12,960
that

3174
02:04:19,910 --> 02:04:17,440
interplanetary visits were

3175
02:04:21,030 --> 02:04:19,920
you know commandeered the people

3176
02:04:22,950 --> 02:04:21,040
navigating those

3177
02:04:24,149 --> 02:04:22,960
interplanetary visits to this country

3178
02:04:25,669 --> 02:04:24,159
this planet

3179
02:04:27,990 --> 02:04:25,679
were coming here because they were

3180
02:04:30,390 --> 02:04:28,000
looking for intelligent life

3181
02:04:31,669 --> 02:04:30,400
i think that that's probably not why

3182
02:04:34,470 --> 02:04:31,679
they're looking anymore

3183
02:04:35,990 --> 02:04:34,480
if they're coming here god knows we

3184
02:04:37,589 --> 02:04:36,000
don't have a whole lot of intelligent

3185
02:04:39,510 --> 02:04:37,599
life on this planet

3186
02:04:41,109 --> 02:04:39,520
i don't know the answer jimmy i mean i

3187
02:04:42,790 --> 02:04:41,119
just basically

3188
02:04:45,189 --> 02:04:42,800
i think people are fascinated with

3189
02:04:48,069 --> 02:04:45,199
things that are unexplainable

3190
02:04:48,709 --> 02:04:48,079
uh i'm not an occult person i am not a

3191
02:04:51,030 --> 02:04:48,719
sci-fi

3192
02:04:52,709 --> 02:04:51,040
person per se i have things in my life

3193
02:04:56,310 --> 02:04:52,719
that have happened that were

3194
02:04:59,510 --> 02:04:56,320
uh unexplainable but i can say this

3195
02:05:01,030 --> 02:04:59,520
that people are endlessly fascinated

3196
02:05:03,910 --> 02:05:01,040
with the unexplainable

3197
02:05:05,350 --> 02:05:03,920
and your opinion is as valid as somebody

3198
02:05:09,189 --> 02:05:05,360
else's opinion about it

3199
02:05:11,510 --> 02:05:09,199
and i i think there's always room for

3200
02:05:12,629 --> 02:05:11,520
the idea that something else is better

3201
02:05:15,910 --> 02:05:12,639
out somewhere

3202
02:05:18,149 --> 02:05:15,920
or different at least and that maybe

3203
02:05:20,950 --> 02:05:18,159
someday somehow we're gonna connect i

3204
02:05:23,270 --> 02:05:20,960
mean my all-time favorite movie is e.t

3205
02:05:24,149 --> 02:05:23,280
my favorite movie uh i think close

3206
02:05:26,149 --> 02:05:24,159
encounters if

3207
02:05:27,189 --> 02:05:26,159
you're so amazing that you know that

3208
02:05:29,430 --> 02:05:27,199
spielberg

3209
02:05:31,669 --> 02:05:29,440
close encounters third kind and e.t are

3210
02:05:34,149 --> 02:05:31,679
two of my favorite movies

3211
02:05:34,950 --> 02:05:34,159
and it was about a man's need to somehow

3212
02:05:36,870 --> 02:05:34,960
connect in this

3213
02:05:38,550 --> 02:05:36,880
in the earlier movie of course et was a

3214
02:05:41,030 --> 02:05:38,560
little boy's need to connect

3215
02:05:42,550 --> 02:05:41,040
i actually think i could relate to the

3216
02:05:45,589 --> 02:05:42,560
e.t when i'm talking about my

3217
02:05:47,510 --> 02:05:45,599
my lab my dog i understood

3218
02:05:49,589 --> 02:05:47,520
that what what they were trying to say

3219
02:05:51,750 --> 02:05:49,599
in that movie everybody needs a little

3220
02:05:52,870 --> 02:05:51,760
uh someone in the dark so to speak to

3221
02:05:55,189 --> 02:05:52,880
come to come

3222
02:05:57,350 --> 02:05:55,199
and reach out to you uh not to get too

3223
02:06:00,149 --> 02:05:57,360
corny but that's sort of how i feel

3224
02:06:02,069 --> 02:06:00,159
but i do think the ex inexplicable and

3225
02:06:04,790 --> 02:06:02,079
the unexplainable

3226
02:06:05,189 --> 02:06:04,800
are two things that fascinate fascinate

3227
02:06:07,830 --> 02:06:05,199
people

3228
02:06:08,870 --> 02:06:07,840
there's an endless audience for it and

3229
02:06:10,629 --> 02:06:08,880
uh that's what

3230
02:06:12,229 --> 02:06:10,639
i think television is always interested

3231
02:06:13,910 --> 02:06:12,239
in and broadcasting in general they're

3232
02:06:16,550 --> 02:06:13,920
interested in audiences

3233
02:06:17,669 --> 02:06:16,560
all coming together because they want to

3234
02:06:19,830 --> 02:06:17,679
to connect

3235
02:06:20,950 --> 02:06:19,840
some kind of way with something they

3236
02:06:25,350 --> 02:06:20,960
can't explain

3237
02:06:29,350 --> 02:06:25,360
do you think um after covid

3238
02:06:30,950 --> 02:06:29,360
and the the year that the entire world

3239
02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:30,960
seven and a half billion people got

3240
02:06:40,149 --> 02:06:32,079
affected

3241
02:06:43,990 --> 02:06:40,159
um that the shock of something

3242
02:06:46,870 --> 02:06:44,000
crazy now is easier to take

3243
02:06:48,470 --> 02:06:46,880
oh yeah sure i i think that's a good

3244
02:06:50,950 --> 02:06:48,480
point i think

3245
02:06:52,550 --> 02:06:50,960
anything goes man i i think you could

3246
02:06:53,910 --> 02:06:52,560
see anything happen we're seeing it

3247
02:06:55,750 --> 02:06:53,920
already we've seen we're seeing stuff

3248
02:06:57,430 --> 02:06:55,760
we've never seen happen before

3249
02:06:59,589 --> 02:06:57,440
not just in this country but all over

3250
02:07:02,069 --> 02:06:59,599
the world

3251
02:07:03,270 --> 02:07:02,079
people people are looking for solutions

3252
02:07:06,709 --> 02:07:03,280
they're looking for

3253
02:07:09,589 --> 02:07:06,719
some kind of respite some kind of

3254
02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:09,599
survival something that will help them

3255
02:07:13,109 --> 02:07:11,360
cope better

3256
02:07:15,270 --> 02:07:13,119
but i also think that anything could

3257
02:07:16,229 --> 02:07:15,280
happen i think both bad and good i think

3258
02:07:18,149 --> 02:07:16,239
we've seen a lot of

3259
02:07:20,229 --> 02:07:18,159
frightening things happen in recent

3260
02:07:22,069 --> 02:07:20,239
weeks in this country but it's been

3261
02:07:25,430 --> 02:07:22,079
going on all over this planet for

3262
02:07:28,229 --> 02:07:25,440
hundreds and hundreds of years um

3263
02:07:30,149 --> 02:07:28,239
you know i that the sad thing to me

3264
02:07:32,790 --> 02:07:30,159
about the covet is

3265
02:07:34,310 --> 02:07:32,800
there's so many sad things but one of

3266
02:07:36,310 --> 02:07:34,320
the saddest things is

3267
02:07:37,910 --> 02:07:36,320
you would i used to always say well it's

3268
02:07:39,189 --> 02:07:37,920
going to take a tragedy to bring us

3269
02:07:41,990 --> 02:07:39,199
together

3270
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:42,000
well this is a tragedy and we're more

3271
02:07:46,069 --> 02:07:44,239
split apart than we've ever been

3272
02:07:47,750 --> 02:07:46,079
that's the the hardest thing for me to

3273
02:07:50,310 --> 02:07:47,760
accept the fact that

3274
02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:50,320
in the the hardest times this this

3275
02:07:53,910 --> 02:07:52,000
country this country of ours

3276
02:07:55,430 --> 02:07:53,920
we came together in the toughest times

3277
02:07:56,550 --> 02:07:55,440
and so did the planet you know we all

3278
02:07:58,229 --> 02:07:56,560
pitched in

3279
02:08:00,390 --> 02:07:58,239
now it's every man for himself where it

3280
02:08:01,990 --> 02:08:00,400
seems like it and we're as i said before

3281
02:08:05,430 --> 02:08:02,000
we're so divided

3282
02:08:07,109 --> 02:08:05,440
we're so polarized that instead of us

3283
02:08:09,430 --> 02:08:07,119
all coming together for the greater good

3284
02:08:11,430 --> 02:08:09,440
and trying to help our neighbor out

3285
02:08:13,189 --> 02:08:11,440
and try to be there and there's some

3286
02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:13,199
wonderful wonderful stories i don't mean

3287
02:08:17,750 --> 02:08:15,040
to paint a picture of just

3288
02:08:19,350 --> 02:08:17,760
negativity and you know disdain for the

3289
02:08:21,910 --> 02:08:19,360
human race but there's some

3290
02:08:23,270 --> 02:08:21,920
a lot of disappointment too in what

3291
02:08:26,310 --> 02:08:23,280
we've become and

3292
02:08:27,109 --> 02:08:26,320
where we're going and um again i don't i

3293
02:08:28,709 --> 02:08:27,119
don't know if that

3294
02:08:31,109 --> 02:08:28,719
if it's if it's not coveted it's going

3295
02:08:31,990 --> 02:08:31,119
to be the better what if a meteor hit

3296
02:08:33,750 --> 02:08:32,000
this planet

3297
02:08:36,069 --> 02:08:33,760
would we come together then or would we

3298
02:08:39,189 --> 02:08:36,079
find a reason to hate each other again

3299
02:08:43,270 --> 02:08:39,199
i i don't know i i'm not smart enough

3300
02:08:44,390 --> 02:08:43,280
to to uh to come up with a solution or

3301
02:08:47,030 --> 02:08:44,400
an answer but i

3302
02:08:47,990 --> 02:08:47,040
i really had hoped that in the toughest

3303
02:08:51,430 --> 02:08:48,000
of times

3304
02:08:52,950 --> 02:08:51,440
people

3305
02:08:55,030 --> 02:08:52,960
first america and then all over the

3306
02:08:58,069 --> 02:08:55,040
planet we would find a way

3307
02:09:00,229 --> 02:08:58,079
to get closer to each other and to to

3308
02:09:01,750 --> 02:09:00,239
love each other better and the opposite

3309
02:09:04,310 --> 02:09:01,760
seems to be happening and it's

3310
02:09:05,350 --> 02:09:04,320
it's perplexing to me yeah i can tell

3311
02:09:08,709 --> 02:09:05,360
you this

3312
02:09:11,750 --> 02:09:08,719
that after the pandemic roy if if a

3313
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:11,760
flying saucer landed on the 405 during

3314
02:09:16,790 --> 02:09:13,280
rush hour

3315
02:09:20,870 --> 02:09:19,510
that's possibly true yeah they will come

3316
02:09:25,189 --> 02:09:20,880
together

3317
02:09:28,229 --> 02:09:27,589
and that i think i've seen crazier

3318
02:09:31,830 --> 02:09:28,239
things like

3319
02:09:32,149 --> 02:09:31,840
than that in la anyway but uh well and

3320
02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:32,159
but

3321
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:34,320
you you bring up a really good point

3322
02:09:38,870 --> 02:09:35,360
isn't this an

3323
02:09:42,229 --> 02:09:38,880
opportunity for all of us to

3324
02:09:43,910 --> 02:09:42,239
know now that we can only help each

3325
02:09:46,149 --> 02:09:43,920
other that's the only way

3326
02:09:47,189 --> 02:09:46,159
forward if there is a bright spot like

3327
02:09:50,229 --> 02:09:47,199
you said

3328
02:09:53,350 --> 02:09:50,239
maybe it's just that that

3329
02:09:57,430 --> 02:09:53,360
we know now the only way forward is

3330
02:09:59,910 --> 02:09:57,440
togetherness not hating your neighbor

3331
02:10:00,950 --> 02:09:59,920
it's so true and it seems so simple

3332
02:10:04,149 --> 02:10:00,960
jimmy but it's

3333
02:10:06,550 --> 02:10:04,159
it's so elusive and it's so

3334
02:10:07,189 --> 02:10:06,560
we we so we evade each other and of

3335
02:10:09,669 --> 02:10:07,199
course

3336
02:10:11,510 --> 02:10:09,679
with the virus now we're paranoid of

3337
02:10:12,870 --> 02:10:11,520
each other we're paranoid that somebody

3338
02:10:15,270 --> 02:10:12,880
walking down the street with a mask

3339
02:10:15,510 --> 02:10:15,280
without a mask uh believes he entitled

3340
02:10:17,589 --> 02:10:15,520
to

3341
02:10:19,830 --> 02:10:17,599
not wear a mask believes he's she she

3342
02:10:23,669 --> 02:10:19,840
has she or he has to wear the

3343
02:10:26,709 --> 02:10:23,679
whatever it is there's we we've driven a

3344
02:10:29,669 --> 02:10:26,719
uh you know a pile

3345
02:10:31,350 --> 02:10:29,679
in half because we we're divided over

3346
02:10:33,430 --> 02:10:31,360
even the most simple things

3347
02:10:34,550 --> 02:10:33,440
caring about each other taking but you

3348
02:10:37,030 --> 02:10:34,560
know i

3349
02:10:37,990 --> 02:10:37,040
as i said today i i got my vaccine today

3350
02:10:39,830 --> 02:10:38,000
i was lucky i'm

3351
02:10:41,669 --> 02:10:39,840
one of the very very lucky americans

3352
02:10:43,669 --> 02:10:41,679
that got an early vaccine

3353
02:10:45,990 --> 02:10:43,679
and as i said to you before the woman

3354
02:10:48,709 --> 02:10:46,000
said i know you it's a long wait

3355
02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:48,719
i'm sorry if you're upset i went i'm not

3356
02:10:54,470 --> 02:10:50,560
the luckiest guy in the world man

3357
02:10:57,510 --> 02:10:54,480
i i'm alive and i appreciate what you do

3358
02:11:00,229 --> 02:10:57,520
i appreciate everybody working here uh

3359
02:11:01,910 --> 02:11:00,239
thank you for you know it's cliche to

3360
02:11:03,350 --> 02:11:01,920
say thank you for your service but it's

3361
02:11:05,669 --> 02:11:03,360
true i think about all the first

3362
02:11:08,709 --> 02:11:05,679
responders and the medical people

3363
02:11:11,030 --> 02:11:08,719
and the people who run food banks and

3364
02:11:11,830 --> 02:11:11,040
you know the scientists and the medical

3365
02:11:15,189 --> 02:11:11,840
people

3366
02:11:19,189 --> 02:11:15,199
uh looking for new ideas new cures

3367
02:11:21,430 --> 02:11:19,199
maybe uh maybe even eradicate pandemics

3368
02:11:23,830 --> 02:11:21,440
in general kind of going forward

3369
02:11:26,229 --> 02:11:23,840
so i try to keep positive but i'll tell

3370
02:11:27,030 --> 02:11:26,239
you if we don't come together and find a

3371
02:11:30,470 --> 02:11:27,040
way

3372
02:11:33,669 --> 02:11:30,480
there's that is that that great

3373
02:11:34,870 --> 02:11:33,679
scene in uh on any given sunday with al

3374
02:11:37,109 --> 02:11:34,880
pacino

3375
02:11:37,990 --> 02:11:37,119
and he says you know gentlemen i know if

3376
02:11:41,990 --> 02:11:38,000
you remember the movie

3377
02:11:45,189 --> 02:11:42,000
i do if we don't come together as a team

3378
02:11:47,030 --> 02:11:45,199
we are going to die as individuals and i

3379
02:11:47,669 --> 02:11:47,040
think it's a great metaphor for where we

3380
02:11:50,629 --> 02:11:47,679
are

3381
02:11:51,109 --> 02:11:50,639
in our lives we have to find and seek

3382
02:11:53,990 --> 02:11:51,119
oldest

3383
02:11:56,149 --> 02:11:54,000
corniest cliche that sports it's a team

3384
02:11:58,790 --> 02:11:56,159
game but guess what so is life

3385
02:12:01,109 --> 02:11:58,800
and if we don't come together as a team

3386
02:12:04,149 --> 02:12:01,119
we will die as individuals

3387
02:12:05,910 --> 02:12:04,159
now as a member of the media and

3388
02:12:07,910 --> 02:12:05,920
this is a great way to close out this

3389
02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:07,920
last segment and before we get there roy

3390
02:12:10,870 --> 02:12:09,040
thank you so much

3391
02:12:13,270 --> 02:12:10,880
uh it's been a great conversation

3392
02:12:16,550 --> 02:12:13,280
tonight but as a member of

3393
02:12:18,069 --> 02:12:16,560
the media a central figure of the media

3394
02:12:21,669 --> 02:12:18,079
for so long

3395
02:12:24,069 --> 02:12:21,679
do you feel that the media

3396
02:12:26,390 --> 02:12:24,079
bears some responsibility in the

3397
02:12:29,510 --> 02:12:26,400
divisiveness where we are today

3398
02:12:34,229 --> 02:12:29,520
absolutely absolutely

3399
02:12:37,270 --> 02:12:34,239
um the one thing though

3400
02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:37,280
that is really scaring me is

3401
02:12:42,390 --> 02:12:40,239
in many cases the truth doesn't matter

3402
02:12:43,350 --> 02:12:42,400
facts don't matter what if truth doesn't

3403
02:12:46,709 --> 02:12:43,360
matter

3404
02:12:50,069 --> 02:12:46,719
fall apart

3405
02:12:51,510 --> 02:12:50,079
if we can't be agree on on what what is

3406
02:12:52,470 --> 02:12:51,520
true and i'm not again i'm not going to

3407
02:12:54,310 --> 02:12:52,480
get into politics

3408
02:12:55,830 --> 02:12:54,320
that's not what i do i'm not on

3409
02:12:58,950 --> 02:12:55,840
broadcast

3410
02:13:02,470 --> 02:12:58,960
uh if we if we can't

3411
02:13:05,270 --> 02:13:02,480
agree that something is true

3412
02:13:07,430 --> 02:13:05,280
um then then we're in big trouble we're

3413
02:13:10,950 --> 02:13:07,440
certainly big troubled democracy

3414
02:13:14,870 --> 02:13:10,960
uh for sure but also if we can't agree

3415
02:13:16,790 --> 02:13:14,880
that we are all on you know temporary

3416
02:13:21,189 --> 02:13:16,800
tenets on this planet man we

3417
02:13:23,430 --> 02:13:21,199
we all have a you know a use by date

3418
02:13:24,870 --> 02:13:23,440
you know if we don't if we don't agree

3419
02:13:28,069 --> 02:13:24,880
that we're all

3420
02:13:29,350 --> 02:13:28,079
going out and in the ground and and we

3421
02:13:31,030 --> 02:13:29,360
need to be kind and

3422
02:13:34,149 --> 02:13:31,040
find a way to love each other or at

3423
02:13:37,669 --> 02:13:34,159
least be willing to respect each other

3424
02:13:39,589 --> 02:13:37,679
and not not and and yes the media does

3425
02:13:41,430 --> 02:13:39,599
drive a wedge there's no question about

3426
02:13:43,750 --> 02:13:41,440
it but

3427
02:13:45,830 --> 02:13:43,760
we also as a people have to learn to

3428
02:13:48,709 --> 02:13:45,840
accept what what truth is

3429
02:13:49,510 --> 02:13:48,719
what facts are and i i heard a great

3430
02:13:52,629 --> 02:13:49,520
quote

3431
02:13:53,910 --> 02:13:52,639
i think it was cornell west said if

3432
02:13:57,910 --> 02:13:53,920
without truth there's no

3433
02:13:58,709 --> 02:13:57,920
love because love is the ultimate truth

3434
02:14:01,589 --> 02:13:58,719
and if you don't

3435
02:14:03,910 --> 02:14:01,599
if you don't have truth in your life and

3436
02:14:05,990 --> 02:14:03,920
or if you don't believe the truth

3437
02:14:07,510 --> 02:14:06,000
you'll never be able to really love i

3438
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:07,520
thought that was a strong thing

3439
02:14:10,229 --> 02:14:08,800
i don't know if you agree with it but i

3440
02:14:11,270 --> 02:14:10,239
happen to think it was a powerful thing

3441
02:14:14,550 --> 02:14:11,280
to say

3442
02:14:17,830 --> 02:14:14,560
because one another note about love

3443
02:14:22,310 --> 02:14:17,840
i think it's the the single greatest

3444
02:14:24,790 --> 02:14:22,320
uh sacrifice and the single greatest um

3445
02:14:27,109 --> 02:14:24,800
uh gamble i guess if you want to call it

3446
02:14:29,430 --> 02:14:27,119
that in life is to love somebody

3447
02:14:30,550 --> 02:14:29,440
because if you're only looking for

3448
02:14:32,709 --> 02:14:30,560
everything to go great

3449
02:14:34,069 --> 02:14:32,719
and you're only looking for love to

3450
02:14:35,750 --> 02:14:34,079
answer and

3451
02:14:37,189 --> 02:14:35,760
fill in all the voids that you have in

3452
02:14:38,629 --> 02:14:37,199
your life you're probably not going to

3453
02:14:42,069 --> 02:14:38,639
be very successful if

3454
02:14:43,910 --> 02:14:42,079
love is flawed but to love somebody man

3455
02:14:46,229 --> 02:14:43,920
is a courageous thing to do

3456
02:14:48,069 --> 02:14:46,239
it's a courageous thing to do so in the

3457
02:14:49,510 --> 02:14:48,079
final moments of this show

3458
02:14:51,109 --> 02:14:49,520
i would like to implore without getting

3459
02:14:53,430 --> 02:14:51,119
too preachy but i would like to implore

3460
02:14:56,550 --> 02:14:53,440
people to find a way to love better

3461
02:14:58,390 --> 02:14:56,560
because if we don't we're gonna do we're

3462
02:14:59,270 --> 02:14:58,400
gonna just die as individuals we really

3463
02:15:02,470 --> 02:14:59,280
will

3464
02:15:05,750 --> 02:15:02,480
is is it possible

3465
02:15:08,629 --> 02:15:05,760
is it possible for the media

3466
02:15:09,830 --> 02:15:08,639
to put the car in reverse for just a

3467
02:15:11,990 --> 02:15:09,840
little bit

3468
02:15:13,589 --> 02:15:12,000
i don't know i don't i really don't know

3469
02:15:15,910 --> 02:15:13,599
i don't know how it's going to work i

3470
02:15:20,390 --> 02:15:17,589
you know left right whatever your

3471
02:15:23,510 --> 02:15:20,400
politics are in life

3472
02:15:24,709 --> 02:15:23,520
we have to find a way to to to speak in

3473
02:15:28,229 --> 02:15:24,719
common

3474
02:15:30,709 --> 02:15:28,239
fact that

3475
02:15:31,430 --> 02:15:30,719
our we worry about our kids we worry

3476
02:15:36,229 --> 02:15:31,440
about

3477
02:15:38,390 --> 02:15:36,239
but

3478
02:15:39,270 --> 02:15:38,400
if we can't relate to each other just on

3479
02:15:42,790 --> 02:15:39,280
a basic

3480
02:15:44,629 --> 02:15:42,800
primal level as human beings and

3481
02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:44,639
forget about our politics and forget

3482
02:15:49,270 --> 02:15:47,360
about our ideological differences

3483
02:15:50,629 --> 02:15:49,280
we're going we're gonna we're gonna fail

3484
02:15:52,790 --> 02:15:50,639
we're gonna fail and

3485
02:15:54,390 --> 02:15:52,800
i you know we've seen it before we've

3486
02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:54,400
seen you know just because we have a

3487
02:15:57,830 --> 02:15:56,960
democracy for short of 250 years doesn't

3488
02:16:00,069 --> 02:15:57,840
guarantee that

3489
02:16:02,629 --> 02:16:00,079
our democracy is going to survive we've

3490
02:16:04,550 --> 02:16:02,639
had democracies have lasted 500 years

3491
02:16:06,149 --> 02:16:04,560
and that and then crumbled

3492
02:16:07,589 --> 02:16:06,159
nothing is a given that's the most

3493
02:16:09,990 --> 02:16:07,599
important thing i want to leave you with

3494
02:16:11,910 --> 02:16:10,000
that in life there's there's not nothing

3495
02:16:15,510 --> 02:16:11,920
is owed to us

3496
02:16:18,870 --> 02:16:15,520
not democracy not our freedom not

3497
02:16:19,750 --> 02:16:18,880
uh love not someone you love could will

3498
02:16:22,870 --> 02:16:19,760
always be there

3499
02:16:23,990 --> 02:16:22,880
nothing is owed to us and we've got to

3500
02:16:26,470 --> 02:16:24,000
find a way

3501
02:16:28,069 --> 02:16:26,480
some way even if it's a baby step every

3502
02:16:29,830 --> 02:16:28,079
day say hello to your neighbors say

3503
02:16:32,230 --> 02:16:29,840
hello to somebody in the park

3504
02:16:34,230 --> 02:16:32,240
uh wave to somebody smile to somebody

3505
02:16:35,990 --> 02:16:34,240
with you get your mask on but it's

3506
02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:36,000
or if you're wearing a mask which i hope

3507
02:16:39,669 --> 02:16:38,080
you are but you know

3508
02:16:42,309 --> 02:16:39,679
we've got to find a way to get back to

3509
02:16:43,589 --> 02:16:42,319
who we we the best of who we are and

3510
02:16:46,629 --> 02:16:43,599
which is

3511
02:16:49,750 --> 02:16:46,639
uh kindness compassion a sense of

3512
02:16:51,589 --> 02:16:49,760
individual integrity honoring each other

3513
02:16:54,389 --> 02:16:51,599
because if we don't man we're destined

3514
02:16:57,030 --> 02:16:54,399
to fail and it's going to be a crashing

3515
02:16:57,750 --> 02:16:57,040
burning heap that will fail then and

3516
02:17:00,950 --> 02:16:57,760
it's

3517
02:17:03,349 --> 02:17:00,960
happening in this country

3518
02:17:05,270 --> 02:17:03,359
and it's sad to watch we just need to

3519
02:17:08,709 --> 02:17:05,280
find a way to get back with each other

3520
02:17:11,830 --> 02:17:08,719
is the the possibility

3521
02:17:15,669 --> 02:17:11,840
of getting this done is it through

3522
02:17:20,150 --> 02:17:15,679
independent voices now that are away

3523
02:17:23,270 --> 02:17:20,160
from opinion news of the mass media

3524
02:17:27,589 --> 02:17:23,280
where like a show like this roy

3525
02:17:31,830 --> 02:17:27,599
um our audience is ginormous

3526
02:17:34,950 --> 02:17:31,840
but i don't have a network behind me

3527
02:17:36,790 --> 02:17:34,960
and there are days uh we broadcast four

3528
02:17:38,309 --> 02:17:36,800
days a week where my numbers are as big

3529
02:17:40,389 --> 02:17:38,319
as cnns

3530
02:17:41,589 --> 02:17:40,399
and i'm not the only one you know look

3531
02:17:44,070 --> 02:17:41,599
at joe rogan

3532
02:17:45,509 --> 02:17:44,080
or some of these other power that are

3533
02:17:47,750 --> 02:17:45,519
independent of

3534
02:17:49,110 --> 02:17:47,760
the mainstream media is that where

3535
02:17:51,669 --> 02:17:49,120
people

3536
02:17:52,469 --> 02:17:51,679
may choose to go to in the future and

3537
02:17:55,110 --> 02:17:52,479
avoid

3538
02:17:57,349 --> 02:17:55,120
uh the mass media and go to independent

3539
02:18:00,629 --> 02:17:57,359
voices

3540
02:18:03,750 --> 02:18:00,639
i hope that people um

3541
02:18:05,190 --> 02:18:03,760
don't only and i and i think sometimes

3542
02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:05,200
i'm a victim of it myself

3543
02:18:10,469 --> 02:18:08,319
i'm you know self-inflicted uh

3544
02:18:12,469 --> 02:18:10,479
only go to the voices that you are

3545
02:18:14,870 --> 02:18:12,479
comfortable with that confirm your

3546
02:18:16,389 --> 02:18:14,880
your views of things that people listen

3547
02:18:18,549 --> 02:18:16,399
to other voices

3548
02:18:19,830 --> 02:18:18,559
even if we don't agree with those voices

3549
02:18:21,429 --> 02:18:19,840
but i don't know

3550
02:18:24,150 --> 02:18:21,439
how that's going to happen because we

3551
02:18:26,230 --> 02:18:24,160
are really divided up we're in teams now

3552
02:18:27,750 --> 02:18:26,240
everyone's that if you're not on my team

3553
02:18:30,790 --> 02:18:27,760
you're on the other team

3554
02:18:34,709 --> 02:18:30,800
there's too much they and them

3555
02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:34,719
and not enough us and we there just

3556
02:18:40,549 --> 02:18:38,080
isn't and this is the united states

3557
02:18:42,790 --> 02:18:40,559
of america we are supposed to be united

3558
02:18:43,190 --> 02:18:42,800
and we are not the united states and we

3559
02:18:46,309 --> 02:18:43,200
are

3560
02:18:48,549 --> 02:18:46,319
going to fail it will doom this country

3561
02:18:49,429 --> 02:18:48,559
if we don't find a way to become more

3562
02:18:51,030 --> 02:18:49,439
united

3563
02:18:53,669 --> 02:18:51,040
i think the politics have become

3564
02:18:56,790 --> 02:18:53,679
divisive i think media is divisive

3565
02:18:59,509 --> 02:18:56,800
but we are still one-to-one human beings

3566
02:19:01,589 --> 02:18:59,519
more mortal human beings and that we're

3567
02:19:02,950 --> 02:19:01,599
all going the same place man we're all

3568
02:19:05,910 --> 02:19:02,960
going to the ground

3569
02:19:07,349 --> 02:19:05,920
and it shouldn't take something like

3570
02:19:09,349 --> 02:19:07,359
losing a kobe bryant

3571
02:19:10,950 --> 02:19:09,359
on a date this is his anniversary of his

3572
02:19:12,790 --> 02:19:10,960
passing and those other

3573
02:19:14,549 --> 02:19:12,800
and the children and those families and

3574
02:19:16,230 --> 02:19:14,559
there's a hole in those families hearts

3575
02:19:18,549 --> 02:19:16,240
that'll never be filled

3576
02:19:19,509 --> 02:19:18,559
it shouldn't take that for us to be kind

3577
02:19:21,830 --> 02:19:19,519
to each other

3578
02:19:22,870 --> 02:19:21,840
to love each other better it not

3579
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:22,880
perfectly but

3580
02:19:28,469 --> 02:19:26,559
better and if we can't do that

3581
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:28,479
we have failed and our society has

3582
02:19:31,190 --> 02:19:30,639
failed and we're doomed we're just

3583
02:19:33,589 --> 02:19:31,200
doomed

3584
02:19:34,469 --> 02:19:33,599
we can't do this alone we cannot do it

3585
02:19:37,509 --> 02:19:34,479
alone why

3586
02:19:39,589 --> 02:19:37,519
why do you think we came unraveled so

3587
02:19:42,309 --> 02:19:39,599
quickly it just seemed like it was

3588
02:19:48,389 --> 02:19:46,070
well you know i think there's

3589
02:19:50,070 --> 02:19:48,399
it i think with you know if you look in

3590
02:19:52,870 --> 02:19:50,080
the mirror we've had things in this

3591
02:19:56,630 --> 02:19:52,880
country for many many hundreds of years

3592
02:19:58,389 --> 02:19:56,640
you know i think hate and greed

3593
02:20:00,710 --> 02:19:58,399
and division has been part of the

3594
02:20:03,830 --> 02:20:00,720
american fabric sad to say

3595
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:03,840
for 250 years uh we're still paying for

3596
02:20:07,910 --> 02:20:05,040
that

3597
02:20:08,870 --> 02:20:07,920
um and i i'll i'm i'll tell you what i'm

3598
02:20:11,670 --> 02:20:08,880
going to do i'm going to

3599
02:20:13,190 --> 02:20:11,680
leave you with a story if i if i have do

3600
02:20:16,790 --> 02:20:13,200
i have three minutes left

3601
02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:16,800
we've got uh 10. uh eight

3602
02:20:19,910 --> 02:20:18,640
okay let me tell you the story and then

3603
02:20:23,349 --> 02:20:19,920
we'll wrap up

3604
02:20:25,110 --> 02:20:23,359
okay absolutely it happens to be about

3605
02:20:27,590 --> 02:20:25,120
muhammad ali

3606
02:20:29,590 --> 02:20:27,600
and when i was in miami growing up and

3607
02:20:32,790 --> 02:20:29,600
starting out in the business

3608
02:20:35,990 --> 02:20:32,800
muhammad ali was training down there

3609
02:20:38,790 --> 02:20:36,000
and my very first tv interview in my

3610
02:20:41,349 --> 02:20:38,800
life was muhammad ali

3611
02:20:42,550 --> 02:20:41,359
so i'm going to do this interview i'm 21

3612
02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:42,560
years old

3613
02:20:46,870 --> 02:20:44,560
to interview the great champ muhammad

3614
02:20:50,550 --> 02:20:46,880
ali whether you liked him or not

3615
02:20:52,950 --> 02:20:50,560
he was number one numero uno you know

3616
02:20:55,270 --> 02:20:52,960
nobody nobody greater than him you know

3617
02:20:56,710 --> 02:20:55,280
and he he will be the first to tell you

3618
02:20:58,070 --> 02:20:56,720
so i go do an interview with him and

3619
02:20:59,030 --> 02:20:58,080
then we decided we're going to follow

3620
02:21:01,670 --> 02:20:59,040
him for a week

3621
02:21:03,190 --> 02:21:01,680
and do a story about the day in the life

3622
02:21:05,590 --> 02:21:03,200
of the champ

3623
02:21:07,510 --> 02:21:05,600
so one night we go to this nursing home

3624
02:21:10,870 --> 02:21:07,520
in south beach florida

3625
02:21:13,590 --> 02:21:10,880
people in their 90s and above even older

3626
02:21:15,429 --> 02:21:13,600
some in the hundreds and muhammad ali

3627
02:21:17,349 --> 02:21:15,439
had just beaten joe frazier to win the

3628
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:17,359
championship

3629
02:21:21,190 --> 02:21:19,520
and uh he walks in the room and he has

3630
02:21:22,710 --> 02:21:21,200
about six members of his entourage with

3631
02:21:24,230 --> 02:21:22,720
him and he goes i'm so fast i'm the

3632
02:21:26,550 --> 02:21:24,240
greatest of all time

3633
02:21:27,830 --> 02:21:26,560
nobody's gonna want me i'm fast i'm

3634
02:21:30,469 --> 02:21:27,840
great i'm pretty

3635
02:21:32,230 --> 02:21:30,479
what is my name right you know some of

3636
02:21:34,870 --> 02:21:32,240
these elderly people are going

3637
02:21:37,270 --> 02:21:34,880
aren't you clay you know that was be was

3638
02:21:40,309 --> 02:21:37,280
not a great thing to happen right there

3639
02:21:42,389 --> 02:21:40,319
so everybody's kind of like doesn't know

3640
02:21:44,469 --> 02:21:42,399
who this guy is these people are so old

3641
02:21:46,150 --> 02:21:44,479
they've lost it you know

3642
02:21:47,990 --> 02:21:46,160
so then he goes into another room and

3643
02:21:50,710 --> 02:21:48,000
there's no one in this room except

3644
02:21:52,550 --> 02:21:50,720
an old black man in a wheelchair i'll

3645
02:21:54,710 --> 02:21:52,560
never forget it i was there with my film

3646
02:21:57,110 --> 02:21:54,720
camera crew or filming this

3647
02:22:00,070 --> 02:21:57,120
and he sees this old man he goes hey old

3648
02:22:02,389 --> 02:22:00,080
man what is my name

3649
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:02,399
and the old man doesn't say anything

3650
02:22:05,910 --> 02:22:04,240
this man was like 97 years old he

3651
02:22:07,349 --> 02:22:05,920
couldn't hear really well didn't deceive

3652
02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:07,359
her

3653
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,240
he says come on old man who am i tell

3654
02:22:15,270 --> 02:22:12,479
everybody who am i

3655
02:22:17,110 --> 02:22:15,280
no reaction so ali starts to walk away

3656
02:22:19,670 --> 02:22:17,120
he figures you know this guy can't

3657
02:22:20,950 --> 02:22:19,680
really put it together maybe he's lost

3658
02:22:22,550 --> 02:22:20,960
it completely

3659
02:22:24,870 --> 02:22:22,560
so i'm watching in the corner of my eye

3660
02:22:27,670 --> 02:22:24,880
this old man and like a light bulb

3661
02:22:28,790 --> 02:22:27,680
went off on his head clicked and

3662
02:22:31,270 --> 02:22:28,800
suddenly his eyes got

3663
02:22:33,349 --> 02:22:31,280
wide and he turned his wheelchair around

3664
02:22:35,270 --> 02:22:33,359
and he started to speak to ali first

3665
02:22:36,630 --> 02:22:35,280
haltingly but then with more conviction

3666
02:22:39,910 --> 02:22:36,640
he says

3667
02:22:43,830 --> 02:22:39,920
i know who you are man

3668
02:22:46,230 --> 02:22:43,840
you know who i am who am i

3669
02:22:47,270 --> 02:22:46,240
and the old man looked up and he said

3670
02:22:50,630 --> 02:22:47,280
you were the champ

3671
02:22:52,790 --> 02:22:50,640
man can't nobody whoop the champ

3672
02:22:53,670 --> 02:22:52,800
can't nobody say nothing better than the

3673
02:22:59,750 --> 02:22:53,680
champ

3674
02:23:01,110 --> 02:22:59,760
i'm 97 years old and everybody in my

3675
02:23:03,670 --> 02:23:01,120
life is dead

3676
02:23:05,670 --> 02:23:03,680
but i finally got to meet the champ

3677
02:23:08,309 --> 02:23:05,680
because my dream came true

3678
02:23:10,389 --> 02:23:08,319
and you were the greatest of all time

3679
02:23:11,030 --> 02:23:10,399
now everybody in the room is crying i

3680
02:23:13,830 --> 02:23:11,040
mean

3681
02:23:14,870 --> 02:23:13,840
people are emotional right ali is even

3682
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:14,880
emotional

3683
02:23:18,150 --> 02:23:17,280
he walks up to the old bed he goes you

3684
02:23:20,710 --> 02:23:18,160
right i

3685
02:23:21,349 --> 02:23:20,720
am the champ now tell everybody right

3686
02:23:24,630 --> 02:23:21,359
now

3687
02:23:26,070 --> 02:23:24,640
mister what is my name and the old man

3688
02:23:29,590 --> 02:23:26,080
looked up and he went

3689
02:23:32,150 --> 02:23:29,600
joe lewis now

3690
02:23:33,670 --> 02:23:32,160
now here's now here jimmy is where i'm

3691
02:23:35,510 --> 02:23:33,680
going to get to the end and why this

3692
02:23:38,309 --> 02:23:35,520
ties together

3693
02:23:38,950 --> 02:23:38,319
everybody in ali's entourage ran to the

3694
02:23:43,190 --> 02:23:38,960
old man

3695
02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:43,200
joke and ollie stopped them he stopped

3696
02:23:45,910 --> 02:23:44,160
them

3697
02:23:48,070 --> 02:23:45,920
he said what are you doing but he said

3698
02:23:49,030 --> 02:23:48,080
your name which i know he said my name

3699
02:23:51,590 --> 02:23:49,040
was

3700
02:23:54,309 --> 02:23:51,600
but you don't understand something this

3701
02:23:56,870 --> 02:23:54,319
man deserves to have some dignity

3702
02:23:58,070 --> 02:23:56,880
this man deserves to have some kind of

3703
02:24:00,630 --> 02:23:58,080
love in his life

3704
02:24:02,389 --> 02:24:00,640
he's all by himself maybe in his whole

3705
02:24:03,590 --> 02:24:02,399
life the only champ he ever wanted me

3706
02:24:05,910 --> 02:24:03,600
was joe lewis

3707
02:24:06,870 --> 02:24:05,920
well guess what his dream came true and

3708
02:24:09,110 --> 02:24:06,880
do you know why

3709
02:24:10,710 --> 02:24:09,120
and he said it and he said it he goes

3710
02:24:14,469 --> 02:24:10,720
because tonight

3711
02:24:17,830 --> 02:24:14,479
my name is joe lewis

3712
02:24:19,990 --> 02:24:17,840
now why was this important

3713
02:24:21,349 --> 02:24:20,000
i mean it's just a forgotten old man in

3714
02:24:23,990 --> 02:24:21,359
a wheelchair

3715
02:24:24,710 --> 02:24:24,000
no ali was showing us something far more

3716
02:24:27,349 --> 02:24:24,720
important

3717
02:24:28,550 --> 02:24:27,359
than than giving an autograph or patent

3718
02:24:30,630 --> 02:24:28,560
somebody in the back

3719
02:24:32,710 --> 02:24:30,640
he was giving an old man who wouldn't

3720
02:24:35,270 --> 02:24:32,720
have mattered to almost anybody else

3721
02:24:36,230 --> 02:24:35,280
some dignity and some love for just a

3722
02:24:38,790 --> 02:24:36,240
few moments

3723
02:24:39,990 --> 02:24:38,800
and what he was saying is we need to

3724
02:24:43,030 --> 02:24:40,000
uplift

3725
02:24:46,309 --> 02:24:43,040
everybody we meet in our lives

3726
02:24:48,469 --> 02:24:46,319
find a way george washington carver said

3727
02:24:49,429 --> 02:24:48,479
how far you go in your life depends upon

3728
02:24:51,190 --> 02:24:49,439
your ability

3729
02:24:52,950 --> 02:24:51,200
to be tender with the young

3730
02:24:55,429 --> 02:24:52,960
compassionate with the agent

3731
02:24:56,150 --> 02:24:55,439
tolerant of the weak and strong and

3732
02:24:59,429 --> 02:24:56,160
those who

3733
02:25:01,670 --> 02:24:59,439
strive because someday in your life

3734
02:25:03,429 --> 02:25:01,680
you will have been all of those things

3735
02:25:05,910 --> 02:25:03,439
yourself

3736
02:25:08,150 --> 02:25:05,920
and so what muhammad ali was teaching us

3737
02:25:11,510 --> 02:25:08,160
is what i want to close with tonight

3738
02:25:15,429 --> 02:25:11,520
we need to find a way to uplift

3739
02:25:16,389 --> 02:25:15,439
each other again we need to do it do it

3740
02:25:18,309 --> 02:25:16,399
in your school

3741
02:25:20,950 --> 02:25:18,319
do it in your place of worship do it in

3742
02:25:22,190 --> 02:25:20,960
your community do it any way you can but

3743
02:25:25,190 --> 02:25:22,200
uplift

3744
02:25:29,030 --> 02:25:25,200
somebody that's the solution

3745
02:25:32,469 --> 02:25:29,040
that's the answer uplift each other roy

3746
02:25:35,990 --> 02:25:32,479
firestone and here you know 21 years old

3747
02:25:38,309 --> 02:25:36,000
and here you are in 2021 sharing that

3748
02:25:39,270 --> 02:25:38,319
again and that's how important it was to

3749
02:25:41,510 --> 02:25:39,280
you then

3750
02:25:42,469 --> 02:25:41,520
and how important it is today thank you

3751
02:25:44,950 --> 02:25:42,479
for that man

3752
02:25:46,070 --> 02:25:44,960
strong thank you for having me on the

3753
02:25:48,230 --> 02:25:46,080
show and uh

3754
02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:48,240
again if i can just do a cheap plug if

3755
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:49,120
you'd like to get

3756
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any of my books or my children's book

3757
02:25:54,870 --> 02:25:53,359
kobe and a boy named roy or before that

3758
02:25:56,750 --> 02:25:54,880
my most recent book is called that's

3759
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what i'm talking about just go to roy

3760
02:25:59,670 --> 02:25:58,720
firestone.com purchase the book or if

3761
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you want to go to

3762
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amazon you can do that too but in the

3763
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case of kobe and a boy named roy we are

3764
02:26:07,110 --> 02:26:04,880
donating our proceeds

3765
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to benefit animal shelters especially a

3766
02:26:10,870 --> 02:26:08,000
lab

3767
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rescue service here in los angeles and i

3768
02:26:14,630 --> 02:26:12,720
i was just honored to be on your show

3769
02:26:17,750 --> 02:26:14,640
and thanks for having me on yeah

3770
02:26:19,510 --> 02:26:17,760
thank you roy i'm 57 years old and i'm

3771
02:26:22,550 --> 02:26:19,520
not too young to learn

3772
02:26:23,750 --> 02:26:22,560
thank you for the lesson thank you thank

3773
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you jimmy

3774
02:26:28,150 --> 02:26:25,680
i could say to everybody tonight i went

3775
02:26:30,710 --> 02:26:28,160
to church all the best roy

3776
02:26:31,270 --> 02:26:30,720
enjoy your evening go say hi to kobe for

3777
02:26:33,510 --> 02:26:31,280
us

3778
02:26:35,990 --> 02:26:33,520
hey take care good night what a great

3779
02:26:38,910 --> 02:26:36,000
conversation roy firestone now

3780
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all the links for roy are over at

3781
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jimmychurchradio.com roryfirestone.com

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and of course all the amazon links are

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right there

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what a conversation amazing

3785
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i'm gonna take a quick break and i'm

3786
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going to come back

3787
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to your phone call 747-228-2051 thank

3788
02:26:59,349 --> 02:26:57,680
you roy

3789
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we'll be right back after this short

3790
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break stay with us

3791
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hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

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welcome back fade to black army of jimmy

3872
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church i want to thank roy firestone

3873
02:31:04,330 --> 02:31:03,520
what a great conversation amazing

3874
02:31:06,309 --> 02:31:04,340
conversation

3875
02:31:08,870 --> 02:31:06,319
[Music]

3876
02:31:09,349 --> 02:31:08,880
amazing amazing thank you so much roy

3877
02:31:11,710 --> 02:31:09,359
and

3878
02:31:13,030 --> 02:31:11,720
all of roy's links are over at

3879
02:31:14,870 --> 02:31:13,040
jimmychurchradio.com

3880
02:31:16,710 --> 02:31:14,880
kobe and a boy named roy you've got to

3881
02:31:18,550 --> 02:31:16,720
go and check that out and

3882
02:31:20,309 --> 02:31:18,560
uh you can look at some of the

3883
02:31:23,830 --> 02:31:20,319
illustrations that are done there

3884
02:31:26,870 --> 02:31:23,840
um it's a children's book but uh

3885
02:31:28,070 --> 02:31:26,880
wow it's it's it's just a great book

3886
02:31:31,230 --> 02:31:28,080
what a great conversation

3887
02:31:32,870 --> 02:31:31,240
all of roy's books are over at

3888
02:31:35,270 --> 02:31:32,880
jimmychurchradio.com and you can head

3889
02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:35,280
over to amazon follow roy by the way

3890
02:31:39,910 --> 02:31:38,720
right there on twitter at roy firestone

3891
02:31:42,070 --> 02:31:39,920
and of course

3892
02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:42,080
you can check him out and follow him on

3893
02:31:46,309 --> 02:31:43,120
facebook

3894
02:31:49,349 --> 02:31:46,319
um his stuff every day i've been uh

3895
02:31:50,950 --> 02:31:49,359
and i i i said this early on um in the

3896
02:31:53,510 --> 02:31:50,960
show

3897
02:31:54,550 --> 02:31:53,520
that i've been following roy now for 13

3898
02:31:58,309 --> 02:31:54,560
years

3899
02:32:01,670 --> 02:31:58,319
and his his daily

3900
02:32:02,710 --> 02:32:01,680
take on life is just it's just so

3901
02:32:06,070 --> 02:32:02,720
inspiring it's

3902
02:32:07,349 --> 02:32:06,080
so inspiring and especially over the

3903
02:32:09,510 --> 02:32:07,359
last couple of years and of course

3904
02:32:12,070 --> 02:32:09,520
through the pandemic too as well but

3905
02:32:13,110 --> 02:32:12,080
i encourage everybody to go and do that

3906
02:32:15,750 --> 02:32:13,120
head over

3907
02:32:16,710 --> 02:32:15,760
and and follow roy on facebook it is so

3908
02:32:19,030 --> 02:32:16,720
worth it

3909
02:32:20,950 --> 02:32:19,040
and uh what a great conversation what a

3910
02:32:21,590 --> 02:32:20,960
great conversation that's it i'm a cloud

3911
02:32:24,790 --> 02:32:21,600
nine

3912
02:32:26,389 --> 02:32:24,800
i've got lots of calls uh on hold i will

3913
02:32:28,389 --> 02:32:26,399
get to everybody

3914
02:32:30,070 --> 02:32:28,399
um if we have time we'll squeeze in a

3915
02:32:30,950 --> 02:32:30,080
few more seven four seven two two eight

3916
02:32:33,750 --> 02:32:30,960
two zero five

3917
02:32:35,270 --> 02:32:33,760
one and with that let's go to the phones

3918
02:32:38,309 --> 02:32:35,280
let's see who's up first hi you're live

3919
02:32:39,270 --> 02:32:38,319
on fade to black who's calling hello

3920
02:32:41,590 --> 02:32:39,280
jimmy joe

3921
02:32:44,790 --> 02:32:41,600
rich from staten island how are you i'm

3922
02:32:47,510 --> 02:32:44,800
doing good joe how are you tonight

3923
02:32:48,230 --> 02:32:47,520
i tell you i'm in trouble my friend

3924
02:32:51,349 --> 02:32:48,240
what's up

3925
02:32:52,469 --> 02:32:51,359
uh i want to believe you so much when

3926
02:32:55,670 --> 02:32:52,479
you talk about

3927
02:32:57,990 --> 02:32:55,680
you know getting together and love

3928
02:32:59,750 --> 02:32:58,000
and uh kobe all your guests are

3929
02:33:01,910 --> 02:32:59,760
beautiful people

3930
02:33:02,870 --> 02:33:01,920
do you know what it is like in my

3931
02:33:04,870 --> 02:33:02,880
neighborhood

3932
02:33:06,870 --> 02:33:04,880
you don't follow and i've been chased

3933
02:33:07,910 --> 02:33:06,880
and hunted down like an animal did you

3934
02:33:10,790 --> 02:33:07,920
know that

3935
02:33:11,910 --> 02:33:10,800
well you know i've been watching um some

3936
02:33:15,270 --> 02:33:11,920
of the things

3937
02:33:18,630 --> 02:33:15,280
um in in new york city and

3938
02:33:21,910 --> 02:33:18,640
and and i'm i'm blown away

3939
02:33:25,190 --> 02:33:21,920
uh i don't know what is going on

3940
02:33:28,150 --> 02:33:25,200
i i i don't i don't can't tell you but

3941
02:33:28,710 --> 02:33:28,160
you know what i'll tell you a funny

3942
02:33:31,270 --> 02:33:28,720
thing

3943
02:33:31,750 --> 02:33:31,280
right you ever seen that movie back in

3944
02:33:41,750 --> 02:33:31,760
the

3945
02:33:45,030 --> 02:33:41,760
140 fight

3946
02:33:46,309 --> 02:33:45,040
ah and then at the end of the fight okay

3947
02:33:48,950 --> 02:33:46,319
here's the thing

3948
02:33:52,230 --> 02:33:48,960
look up the movie it's a great cult

3949
02:33:54,070 --> 02:33:52,240
movie from like the early 70s

3950
02:33:56,550 --> 02:33:54,080
i remember seeing it as a kid the point

3951
02:33:59,510 --> 02:33:56,560
i'm saying is

3952
02:34:01,429 --> 02:33:59,520
you know i want to love people and i'm a

3953
02:34:01,990 --> 02:34:01,439
positive person you know that obviously

3954
02:34:05,110 --> 02:34:02,000
i wouldn't be

3955
02:34:08,469 --> 02:34:05,120
listening to you if i wasn't but

3956
02:34:09,830 --> 02:34:08,479
the more good you try and do in certain

3957
02:34:13,830 --> 02:34:09,840
areas

3958
02:34:16,950 --> 02:34:13,840
the more of the bad folk don't want that

3959
02:34:20,070 --> 02:34:16,960
they want the do you understand i

3960
02:34:23,429 --> 02:34:20,080
i i i i hear

3961
02:34:26,389 --> 02:34:23,439
you but this is where

3962
02:34:26,790 --> 02:34:26,399
i want you to listen to me for a second

3963
02:34:31,690 --> 02:34:26,800
i

3964
02:34:33,510 --> 02:34:31,700
remember uh 19

3965
02:34:36,630 --> 02:34:33,520
[Music]

3966
02:34:39,750 --> 02:34:36,640
my first trip to new york city okay

3967
02:34:44,870 --> 02:34:39,760
1989 scared

3968
02:34:47,429 --> 02:34:44,880
the crap out of me 1989

3969
02:34:48,710 --> 02:34:47,439
new york city new york city was not a

3970
02:34:51,990 --> 02:34:48,720
fun place to be

3971
02:34:55,510 --> 02:34:52,000
okay it just was not it was intimidating

3972
02:34:57,590 --> 02:34:55,520
and uh i had i was like

3973
02:34:59,429 --> 02:34:57,600
listen joe i was in times square i'm

3974
02:35:00,550 --> 02:34:59,439
with a group of friends it's about

3975
02:35:02,309 --> 02:35:00,560
midnight

3976
02:35:04,790 --> 02:35:02,319
and and i'm walking and these two cops

3977
02:35:08,309 --> 02:35:04,800
come up to us there's four of us

3978
02:35:10,150 --> 02:35:08,319
and uh uh two cops come up and they go

3979
02:35:11,750 --> 02:35:10,160
uh what are you guys doing here oh man

3980
02:35:13,190 --> 02:35:11,760
we're in new york for the first time in

3981
02:35:13,910 --> 02:35:13,200
new york city man this is great times

3982
02:35:15,670 --> 02:35:13,920
square

3983
02:35:17,110 --> 02:35:15,680
and the cop says i want you to turn

3984
02:35:20,230 --> 02:35:17,120
around and look

3985
02:35:22,630 --> 02:35:20,240
and i and we do and he goes

3986
02:35:23,670 --> 02:35:22,640
you see those four guys back there

3987
02:35:28,790 --> 02:35:23,680
they're about

3988
02:35:32,389 --> 02:35:28,800
to mug you so you need to get in a cab

3989
02:35:33,670 --> 02:35:32,399
and go back to your hotel get off of the

3990
02:35:35,910 --> 02:35:33,680
streets

3991
02:35:37,110 --> 02:35:35,920
now and we turned around we saw what was

3992
02:35:41,110 --> 02:35:37,120
going on the the

3993
02:35:43,190 --> 02:35:41,120
the four people in back of us

3994
02:35:44,230 --> 02:35:43,200
saw the cops talking to us and they

3995
02:35:47,590 --> 02:35:44,240
didn't even

3996
02:35:49,830 --> 02:35:47,600
care and it was this predatory thing

3997
02:35:52,230 --> 02:35:49,840
that was going on and we freaked out and

3998
02:35:56,150 --> 02:35:52,240
and we jumped in the cabin we got off of

3999
02:35:59,349 --> 02:35:56,160
now that was then new york was

4000
02:36:02,630 --> 02:35:59,359
able to turn itself around

4001
02:36:03,750 --> 02:36:02,640
and my future trips back to new york of

4002
02:36:07,429 --> 02:36:03,760
which there have been

4003
02:36:10,230 --> 02:36:07,439
dozens have been great fun and enjoyable

4004
02:36:11,510 --> 02:36:10,240
if it's going through some kind of phase

4005
02:36:14,550 --> 02:36:11,520
right now

4006
02:36:17,110 --> 02:36:14,560
it's just a phase it

4007
02:36:19,349 --> 02:36:17,120
it it was it was turned around once

4008
02:36:21,190 --> 02:36:19,359
before it'll turn around again

4009
02:36:22,469 --> 02:36:21,200
it's not going to be like this forever

4010
02:36:25,750 --> 02:36:22,479
it's it's just not

4011
02:36:27,510 --> 02:36:25,760
it's too great of a city not kind of

4012
02:36:29,670 --> 02:36:27,520
what jimmy that's all i could tell you

4013
02:36:30,870 --> 02:36:29,680
yeah i know you're good i'm not gonna

4014
02:36:33,429 --> 02:36:30,880
get it right

4015
02:36:34,389 --> 02:36:33,439
knocking on wood right now bro all right

4016
02:36:36,469 --> 02:36:34,399
i even know

4017
02:36:37,510 --> 02:36:36,479
i enjoyed you guess but i like the idea

4018
02:36:39,270 --> 02:36:37,520
of working hard

4019
02:36:41,030 --> 02:36:39,280
you know and uh i'm trying to do a

4020
02:36:43,110 --> 02:36:41,040
little something media wise two of my

4021
02:36:44,710 --> 02:36:43,120
podcasts and everything so

4022
02:36:46,630 --> 02:36:44,720
i'm trying to break in a little bit and

4023
02:36:48,230 --> 02:36:46,640
spread a little love myself so

4024
02:36:50,309 --> 02:36:48,240
well that's what i'm talking about joe

4025
02:36:53,030 --> 02:36:50,319
that's what i'm talking about

4026
02:36:55,590 --> 02:36:53,040
agent five girl 999 the people in

4027
02:36:58,550 --> 02:36:55,600
spotify and stuff

4028
02:36:58,950 --> 02:36:58,560
everybody's interested thank you so much

4029
02:37:01,270 --> 02:36:58,960
joe

4030
02:37:04,150 --> 02:37:01,280
behave and be well and we'll see you

4031
02:37:05,510 --> 02:37:04,160
right here tomorrow night well you got

4032
02:37:08,230 --> 02:37:05,520
it bro you have a good night

4033
02:37:09,670 --> 02:37:08,240
you too joe thank you i like i liked you

4034
02:37:13,110 --> 02:37:09,680
guys i never heard of it

4035
02:37:14,630 --> 02:37:13,120
but i liked it there you go you're the

4036
02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:14,640
only one on the planet

4037
02:37:18,230 --> 02:37:16,560
and you learned something there you go

4038
02:37:19,830 --> 02:37:18,240
joe enjoy your night man we'll see you

4039
02:37:21,590 --> 02:37:19,840
tomorrow

4040
02:37:23,750 --> 02:37:21,600
i'm here with my little five minute soup

4041
02:37:24,710 --> 02:37:23,760
i'm all good that's what i'm talking

4042
02:37:27,429 --> 02:37:24,720
about

4043
02:37:28,070 --> 02:37:27,439
there you go joe from stanton island

4044
02:37:31,990 --> 02:37:28,080
everybody

4045
02:37:36,230 --> 02:37:32,000
kicking off the show tonight and uh

4046
02:37:38,389 --> 02:37:36,240
that's funny uh

4047
02:37:39,910 --> 02:37:38,399
first time he's ever heard roy firestone

4048
02:37:42,070 --> 02:37:39,920
he's got to be the only person on the

4049
02:37:43,590 --> 02:37:42,080
planet right let's go back to the phones

4050
02:37:45,670 --> 02:37:43,600
hi you're live on paid to black who's

4051
02:37:47,750 --> 02:37:45,680
calling hey jimmy

4052
02:37:48,870 --> 02:37:47,760
michael i'll just start changing my name

4053
02:37:52,389 --> 02:37:48,880
to tenacious so

4054
02:37:54,870 --> 02:37:52,399
you know who i am okay there you go

4055
02:37:56,070 --> 02:37:54,880
hey uh you know i looked at i really

4056
02:37:59,190 --> 02:37:56,080
gotta thank you for

4057
02:38:01,190 --> 02:37:59,200
having roy on tonight because i i look

4058
02:38:05,349 --> 02:38:01,200
at the guests and i'm like

4059
02:38:07,830 --> 02:38:05,359
how does this fit in with your program

4060
02:38:10,150 --> 02:38:07,840
and i gotta say dude you're either

4061
02:38:11,670 --> 02:38:10,160
completely crazy or a genius and i think

4062
02:38:15,510 --> 02:38:11,680
it's the latter

4063
02:38:18,790 --> 02:38:15,520
because i got more

4064
02:38:21,429 --> 02:38:18,800
out of listening to roy and yourself

4065
02:38:23,990 --> 02:38:21,439
converse

4066
02:38:25,590 --> 02:38:24,000
what a beautiful human being roy

4067
02:38:30,469 --> 02:38:25,600
firestone is

4068
02:38:32,950 --> 02:38:30,479
he is he's a gift he's like listening to

4069
02:38:34,630 --> 02:38:32,960
someone that has died and come back to

4070
02:38:39,030 --> 02:38:34,640
life i mean he just has

4071
02:38:42,870 --> 02:38:39,040
that out of body kind of touch with

4072
02:38:45,990 --> 02:38:42,880
what is necessary to be

4073
02:38:49,910 --> 02:38:46,000
a successful loving human being uh

4074
02:38:53,270 --> 02:38:49,920
to each other and after listening

4075
02:38:55,910 --> 02:38:53,280
i mean it it really has me

4076
02:38:58,070 --> 02:38:55,920
it really affected me uh it really

4077
02:39:01,830 --> 02:38:58,080
affected the way

4078
02:39:05,190 --> 02:39:01,840
i want to act towards people tomorrow

4079
02:39:07,429 --> 02:39:05,200
and see how long i can continue to

4080
02:39:10,469 --> 02:39:07,439
make that change not that i'm a bad

4081
02:39:12,150 --> 02:39:10,479
person i'm really friendly guy but

4082
02:39:13,590 --> 02:39:12,160
you know we all have moments where we

4083
02:39:17,429 --> 02:39:13,600
are

4084
02:39:21,270 --> 02:39:17,439
we we we're not the best we could be

4085
02:39:24,469 --> 02:39:21,280
and uh i think that roy really has

4086
02:39:26,790 --> 02:39:24,479
helped me to have a different

4087
02:39:28,309 --> 02:39:26,800
approach starting tomorrow when i get

4088
02:39:31,429 --> 02:39:28,319
into work with people

4089
02:39:33,830 --> 02:39:31,439
and i work with the public a lot and

4090
02:39:34,950 --> 02:39:33,840
i just i can't i can't thank you enough

4091
02:39:36,870 --> 02:39:34,960
for having him on

4092
02:39:39,110 --> 02:39:36,880
and yes i'm going to get a book through

4093
02:39:41,670 --> 02:39:39,120
his website so that i could

4094
02:39:42,630 --> 02:39:41,680
have that book to remember and to remind

4095
02:39:44,870 --> 02:39:42,640
me

4096
02:39:46,790 --> 02:39:44,880
even if i never read it i probably will

4097
02:39:49,270 --> 02:39:46,800
and probably read it a couple times

4098
02:39:50,870 --> 02:39:49,280
but just to remind me of what a

4099
02:39:53,030 --> 02:39:50,880
beautiful message

4100
02:39:54,630 --> 02:39:53,040
that was just drilled in my head at

4101
02:39:56,950 --> 02:39:54,640
heart tonight and i just want to say

4102
02:40:00,550 --> 02:39:56,960
thank you so much for having him and

4103
02:40:03,830 --> 02:40:00,560
really great move on your part well

4104
02:40:07,830 --> 02:40:03,840
and thank you for that and the thing

4105
02:40:10,870 --> 02:40:07,840
um about roy um is that

4106
02:40:12,550 --> 02:40:10,880
he's passionate about this country he's

4107
02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:12,560
passionate about people

4108
02:40:18,309 --> 02:40:15,600
he's passionate about the world um

4109
02:40:21,349 --> 02:40:18,319
and he's passionate about himself let me

4110
02:40:25,429 --> 02:40:21,359
tell you something if you ever

4111
02:40:28,469 --> 02:40:25,439
get the chance just go and watch

4112
02:40:31,030 --> 02:40:28,479
um some because what we know about roy

4113
02:40:31,990 --> 02:40:31,040
is his interviews and sports and his

4114
02:40:34,630 --> 02:40:32,000
impressions

4115
02:40:35,670 --> 02:40:34,640
and and we didn't even get into any of

4116
02:40:38,309 --> 02:40:35,680
that tonight we didn't

4117
02:40:38,790 --> 02:40:38,319
uh have the time but that's what we know

4118
02:40:42,550 --> 02:40:38,800
about

4119
02:40:46,070 --> 02:40:42,560
roy and that's great go and watch

4120
02:40:50,070 --> 02:40:46,080
roy sing and man

4121
02:40:53,830 --> 02:40:50,080
he doesn't he doesn't give a crap

4122
02:40:56,630 --> 02:40:53,840
you know what i mean he is singing

4123
02:40:57,590 --> 02:40:56,640
singing it's not the roy you know that

4124
02:40:59,750 --> 02:40:57,600
does interviews

4125
02:41:01,269 --> 02:40:59,760
no this and that's why i brought this up

4126
02:41:04,230 --> 02:41:01,279
with him tonight

4127
02:41:04,630 --> 02:41:04,240
you know it is it's so wonderful to see

4128
02:41:07,590 --> 02:41:04,640
him

4129
02:41:09,190 --> 02:41:07,600
sing and it's absolutely incredible he's

4130
02:41:12,230 --> 02:41:09,200
got a voice from god

4131
02:41:13,830 --> 02:41:12,240
he really does and probably also

4132
02:41:15,830 --> 02:41:13,840
jim because he's so comfortable with

4133
02:41:16,630 --> 02:41:15,840
himself from the inside you know what i

4134
02:41:17,910 --> 02:41:16,640
mean

4135
02:41:20,469 --> 02:41:17,920
when you're really comfortable with

4136
02:41:23,590 --> 02:41:20,479
yourself it just flows

4137
02:41:25,190 --> 02:41:23,600
there's no tension there's just just you

4138
02:41:26,870 --> 02:41:25,200
connect to the inner you

4139
02:41:28,630 --> 02:41:26,880
and that's and that's beauty with roy

4140
02:41:31,110 --> 02:41:28,640
roy is a really

4141
02:41:32,550 --> 02:41:31,120
what a cool person yeah yeah his feet

4142
02:41:35,590 --> 02:41:32,560
are completely

4143
02:41:37,190 --> 02:41:35,600
on the ground and uh

4144
02:41:38,710 --> 02:41:37,200
you know what was really cool before i

4145
02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:38,720
let you go um

4146
02:41:41,910 --> 02:41:41,120
when i asked him to come on the show he

4147
02:41:44,710 --> 02:41:41,920
literally

4148
02:41:47,590 --> 02:41:44,720
said um i'm going to paraphrase but he

4149
02:41:50,630 --> 02:41:47,600
literally said okay champ

4150
02:41:53,990 --> 02:41:50,640
let's do this you know

4151
02:41:54,950 --> 02:41:54,000
like joe lewis or muhammad yeah right

4152
02:41:58,150 --> 02:41:54,960
right right

4153
02:41:58,630 --> 02:41:58,160
and it was uh without hesitation uh from

4154
02:42:00,550 --> 02:41:58,640
him

4155
02:42:02,230 --> 02:42:00,560
and and that was really cool and i had

4156
02:42:04,309 --> 02:42:02,240
said to rita i said you know

4157
02:42:06,070 --> 02:42:04,319
i want to get roy firestone on the show

4158
02:42:10,150 --> 02:42:06,080
and and

4159
02:42:13,590 --> 02:42:10,160
i've just wanted to do this for a while

4160
02:42:16,469 --> 02:42:13,600
and um and so anyway

4161
02:42:17,830 --> 02:42:16,479
um i you know i just reached out and it

4162
02:42:21,110 --> 02:42:17,840
it was just uh

4163
02:42:21,510 --> 02:42:21,120
uh an immediate yes and that's that's

4164
02:42:24,550 --> 02:42:21,520
who

4165
02:42:24,950 --> 02:42:24,560
he is you know and and that was really

4166
02:42:26,710 --> 02:42:24,960
cool

4167
02:42:29,349 --> 02:42:26,720
that was uh yeah i just want to say

4168
02:42:31,510 --> 02:42:29,359
thank you for myself and everyone else

4169
02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:31,520
that hasn't called or has the ability to

4170
02:42:37,110 --> 02:42:33,600
get in to talk to him

4171
02:42:39,670 --> 02:42:37,120
i'm sure a lot of people out there are

4172
02:42:40,870 --> 02:42:39,680
are still processing what they heard and

4173
02:42:43,670 --> 02:42:40,880
for me

4174
02:42:45,110 --> 02:42:43,680
it was just what the doctor ordered well

4175
02:42:47,349 --> 02:42:45,120
i thank you for that michael

4176
02:42:49,269 --> 02:42:47,359
and and this is this is the other thing

4177
02:42:50,150 --> 02:42:49,279
we you know we've always seen one side

4178
02:42:53,110 --> 02:42:50,160
of roy

4179
02:42:55,349 --> 02:42:53,120
over the years through up close and and

4180
02:42:57,429 --> 02:42:55,359
it's not just up close and espn but it's

4181
02:43:00,630 --> 02:42:57,439
hd net and he's on

4182
02:43:04,230 --> 02:43:00,640
uh here in los angeles too as well um

4183
02:43:07,670 --> 02:43:04,240
but um we only see that side of roy

4184
02:43:07,990 --> 02:43:07,680
and and tonight you know like i said

4185
02:43:14,469 --> 02:43:08,000
it's

4186
02:43:17,110 --> 02:43:14,479
and so we get to see the other side

4187
02:43:18,309 --> 02:43:17,120
and that's kind of like roy unplugged it

4188
02:43:21,030 --> 02:43:18,319
was roy

4189
02:43:22,309 --> 02:43:21,040
and and what you got tonight that is roy

4190
02:43:25,830 --> 02:43:22,319
firestone you know

4191
02:43:27,429 --> 02:43:25,840
and uh it was uh it was effortless man

4192
02:43:29,590 --> 02:43:27,439
it was just so much fun

4193
02:43:31,750 --> 02:43:29,600
i never knew that side of him jim i know

4194
02:43:33,830 --> 02:43:31,760
you know and thanks for

4195
02:43:35,510 --> 02:43:33,840
you know you got you did a heck of a job

4196
02:43:37,269 --> 02:43:35,520
brother i mean you talk about the

4197
02:43:39,269 --> 02:43:37,279
teacher and the student and the student

4198
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:39,279
becomes the teacher but uh

4199
02:43:42,389 --> 02:43:41,680
you showed you brought out a part of roy

4200
02:43:43,910 --> 02:43:42,399
that

4201
02:43:45,750 --> 02:43:43,920
and believe me man i'm the biggest

4202
02:43:47,590 --> 02:43:45,760
sports fanatic in the world when i don't

4203
02:43:49,190 --> 02:43:47,600
care if it's professional tiddlywinks if

4204
02:43:52,230 --> 02:43:49,200
it's good i'm watching it

4205
02:43:55,510 --> 02:43:52,240
um it but i've never

4206
02:43:56,230 --> 02:43:55,520
you never get to see that side of them

4207
02:43:59,030 --> 02:43:56,240
and

4208
02:44:00,630 --> 02:43:59,040
i i never would have known after all the

4209
02:44:01,429 --> 02:44:00,640
times i've seen them doing these

4210
02:44:03,910 --> 02:44:01,439
interviews

4211
02:44:04,630 --> 02:44:03,920
i never even knew that part of them how

4212
02:44:07,429 --> 02:44:04,640
cool is

4213
02:44:07,830 --> 02:44:07,439
that well see this is the thing i was i

4214
02:44:12,070 --> 02:44:07,840
was

4215
02:44:15,590 --> 02:44:12,080
armed with this uh somewhat in that

4216
02:44:16,710 --> 02:44:15,600
uh i follow roy every day i i see the

4217
02:44:20,070 --> 02:44:16,720
ebb and flow

4218
02:44:22,230 --> 02:44:20,080
of where he is and and and

4219
02:44:23,269 --> 02:44:22,240
and and what he has to say about life

4220
02:44:25,670 --> 02:44:23,279
every day

4221
02:44:26,389 --> 02:44:25,680
and that's that's what motivated me i

4222
02:44:29,510 --> 02:44:26,399
was like man

4223
02:44:32,070 --> 02:44:29,520
right now right now

4224
02:44:33,110 --> 02:44:32,080
this is this is the best time uh to have

4225
02:44:35,670 --> 02:44:33,120
roy on

4226
02:44:36,150 --> 02:44:35,680
because i know that he has stuff to say

4227
02:44:38,950 --> 02:44:36,160
you know

4228
02:44:39,510 --> 02:44:38,960
and and and that's what made it so cool

4229
02:44:45,190 --> 02:44:39,520
i knew

4230
02:44:48,389 --> 02:44:45,200
he's at right now he's very passionate

4231
02:44:51,510 --> 02:44:48,399
about this country about humans and

4232
02:44:53,750 --> 02:44:51,520
and and earthlings and this planet

4233
02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:53,760
and and i just knew that the timing was

4234
02:44:57,990 --> 02:44:55,520
right so i want to thank you for that

4235
02:45:00,870 --> 02:44:58,000
politics was yeah sure if politics was

4236
02:45:01,830 --> 02:45:00,880
i'll leave you with this if politics

4237
02:45:06,950 --> 02:45:01,840
wasn't such a

4238
02:45:09,590 --> 02:45:06,960
brutal nasty very confusing

4239
02:45:10,630 --> 02:45:09,600
uh sacrifice you're moral sometimes

4240
02:45:13,590 --> 02:45:10,640
because it's

4241
02:45:14,070 --> 02:45:13,600
what the program calls for he'd probably

4242
02:45:17,349 --> 02:45:14,080
be

4243
02:45:18,309 --> 02:45:17,359
a great president man or a great social

4244
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:18,319
leader

4245
02:45:22,230 --> 02:45:21,520
and he is all that in his own way thank

4246
02:45:24,389 --> 02:45:22,240
you michael

4247
02:45:25,750 --> 02:45:24,399
enjoy yourself thanks jimmy we'll see

4248
02:45:27,910 --> 02:45:25,760
you tomorrow

4249
02:45:29,429 --> 02:45:27,920
all right buddy great phone call thank

4250
02:45:32,630 --> 02:45:29,439
you for that michael

4251
02:45:35,830 --> 02:45:32,640
and uh let me uh

4252
02:45:37,590 --> 02:45:35,840
do this and i am

4253
02:45:39,269 --> 02:45:37,600
going to you know what i'm just going to

4254
02:45:42,070 --> 02:45:39,279
go here next

4255
02:45:44,630 --> 02:45:42,080
it's really that simple hi you're live

4256
02:45:47,030 --> 02:45:44,640
on fade to black who's calling

4257
02:45:47,750 --> 02:45:47,040
hey jimmy it's carrie in palm springs

4258
02:45:55,190 --> 02:45:47,760
how are you

4259
02:45:57,110 --> 02:45:55,200
fantastic what an amazing

4260
02:45:59,269 --> 02:45:57,120
inspirational interview this evening

4261
02:46:01,429 --> 02:45:59,279
with uh roy firestone

4262
02:46:02,870 --> 02:46:01,439
wow i'm still processing it you're

4263
02:46:04,950 --> 02:46:02,880
correct

4264
02:46:05,990 --> 02:46:04,960
um thank you so much i mean you're so

4265
02:46:10,230 --> 02:46:06,000
amazing you find

4266
02:46:13,349 --> 02:46:10,240
such varied guests from such different

4267
02:46:16,710 --> 02:46:13,359
diverse backgrounds and you give us

4268
02:46:17,190 --> 02:46:16,720
such a treat and tonight was really a

4269
02:46:21,110 --> 02:46:17,200
treat

4270
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:21,120
i mean i feel inspired i feel

4271
02:46:25,750 --> 02:46:24,080
uplifted i feel just like your previous

4272
02:46:27,030 --> 02:46:25,760
caller i mean i think this is going to

4273
02:46:30,230 --> 02:46:27,040
change

4274
02:46:30,870 --> 02:46:30,240
you know how i approach tomorrow and i

4275
02:46:34,389 --> 02:46:30,880
just want to

4276
02:46:38,389 --> 02:46:34,399
thank you and to thank roy and

4277
02:46:39,429 --> 02:46:38,399
that story that he told about the 97

4278
02:46:41,990 --> 02:46:39,439
year old man

4279
02:46:43,990 --> 02:46:42,000
and muhammad ali i mean i'll never

4280
02:46:47,349 --> 02:46:44,000
forget that story

4281
02:46:50,710 --> 02:46:47,359
i mean i'm so touched and moved

4282
02:46:53,349 --> 02:46:50,720
and how is it for you to interview

4283
02:46:55,030 --> 02:46:53,359
him like what what what are you thinking

4284
02:46:56,150 --> 02:46:55,040
as you're going through the questions

4285
02:46:58,790 --> 02:46:56,160
like

4286
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:58,800
i i can't even you did such an amazing

4287
02:47:02,630 --> 02:46:59,840
interview with him like

4288
02:47:04,870 --> 02:47:02,640
how did you even approach and go from

4289
02:47:07,750 --> 02:47:04,880
one subject to the next and draw

4290
02:47:08,070 --> 02:47:07,760
out all that you did from him well you

4291
02:47:10,389 --> 02:47:08,080
know

4292
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:10,399
look i'm in a i'm in a comfort

4293
02:47:15,349 --> 02:47:12,080
comfortable position

4294
02:47:18,710 --> 02:47:15,359
knowing that um i'm dealing

4295
02:47:21,030 --> 02:47:18,720
with somebody that is professional

4296
02:47:21,910 --> 02:47:21,040
he's been there he's done this so many

4297
02:47:25,030 --> 02:47:21,920
times that

4298
02:47:25,510 --> 02:47:25,040
uh broadcast and radio and television

4299
02:47:28,550 --> 02:47:25,520
all

4300
02:47:31,910 --> 02:47:28,560
this is this is roy firestone so

4301
02:47:35,750 --> 02:47:31,920
i know that going in i'm allowed to be

4302
02:47:38,870 --> 02:47:35,760
uh comfortable and and and knowing that

4303
02:47:39,590 --> 02:47:38,880
wherever i take it roy's gonna catch the

4304
02:47:41,590 --> 02:47:39,600
ball

4305
02:47:43,670 --> 02:47:41,600
you know and so it's so for somebody

4306
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:43,680
like me as a show host now

4307
02:47:47,590 --> 02:47:45,680
uh like i said early on in the show ten

4308
02:47:50,790 --> 02:47:47,600
years ago this show would be impossible

4309
02:47:53,750 --> 02:47:50,800
it it just i i'm out of my league

4310
02:47:54,550 --> 02:47:53,760
um uh it's not that way today i'm

4311
02:47:57,830 --> 02:47:54,560
excited

4312
02:48:01,429 --> 02:47:57,840
about hanging with you know uh

4313
02:48:02,150 --> 02:48:01,439
a roy firestone and and so that's that's

4314
02:48:05,190 --> 02:48:02,160
why

4315
02:48:05,670 --> 02:48:05,200
uh again um i said early you know it's a

4316
02:48:08,950 --> 02:48:05,680
uh

4317
02:48:10,150 --> 02:48:08,960
it's about sometimes things appear to be

4318
02:48:13,110 --> 02:48:10,160
smooth

4319
02:48:13,750 --> 02:48:13,120
and and easy well it's because i come

4320
02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:13,760
prepared

4321
02:48:20,070 --> 02:48:18,720
it it's it's two people that can come

4322
02:48:22,950 --> 02:48:20,080
together and

4323
02:48:24,950 --> 02:48:22,960
and and and play catch and and and and

4324
02:48:26,150 --> 02:48:24,960
do it so no it was very easy it was a

4325
02:48:29,269 --> 02:48:26,160
lot of fun

4326
02:48:31,429 --> 02:48:29,279
forward to it i look

4327
02:48:32,309 --> 02:48:31,439
i knew it was going to be this kind of

4328
02:48:35,030 --> 02:48:32,319
show

4329
02:48:35,830 --> 02:48:35,040
um roy is always going to bring his a

4330
02:48:38,150 --> 02:48:35,840
game

4331
02:48:39,429 --> 02:48:38,160
that's what he does well you posted it

4332
02:48:42,230 --> 02:48:39,439
you both did i mean it was

4333
02:48:43,830 --> 02:48:42,240
seamless the rhythm the lessons the

4334
02:48:45,910 --> 02:48:43,840
inspiration

4335
02:48:47,110 --> 02:48:45,920
it was off the charts thank you so much

4336
02:48:49,030 --> 02:48:47,120
carrie and

4337
02:48:50,150 --> 02:48:49,040
uh enjoy yourself you got snow out there

4338
02:48:52,150 --> 02:48:50,160
in palm springs yet

4339
02:48:53,750 --> 02:48:52,160
i hear it's coming mountains are covered

4340
02:48:55,670 --> 02:48:53,760
it's absolutely beautiful

4341
02:48:57,990 --> 02:48:55,680
absolutely beautiful i saw some pictures

4342
02:48:59,910 --> 02:48:58,000
today it's uh it's insane

4343
02:49:01,030 --> 02:48:59,920
and out here in the valley we've got

4344
02:49:04,070 --> 02:49:01,040
three or four

4345
02:49:06,230 --> 02:49:04,080
straight days of rain coming up

4346
02:49:07,990 --> 02:49:06,240
which means snow in our mountains too as

4347
02:49:09,750 --> 02:49:08,000
well well we'll see you tomorrow night

4348
02:49:12,070 --> 02:49:09,760
carrie thank you so much

4349
02:49:13,750 --> 02:49:12,080
tomorrow night thanks jimmy for a great

4350
02:49:17,349 --> 02:49:13,760
show have a good evening

4351
02:49:18,790 --> 02:49:17,359
thank you and uh yeah and carrie brings

4352
02:49:22,469 --> 02:49:18,800
up a really good point

4353
02:49:25,830 --> 02:49:22,479
that um and i know for the audience

4354
02:49:27,349 --> 02:49:25,840
that that you know a show like tonight

4355
02:49:29,429 --> 02:49:27,359
you know i i just knew it was going to

4356
02:49:30,950 --> 02:49:29,439
be this much fun and i again i want to

4357
02:49:34,550 --> 02:49:30,960
thank roy for that

4358
02:49:37,910 --> 02:49:34,560
uh absolutely absolutely perfect show

4359
02:49:39,190 --> 02:49:37,920
for me um there you go there there were

4360
02:49:42,230 --> 02:49:39,200
some points

4361
02:49:45,670 --> 02:49:42,240
um roy's watching on the camera

4362
02:49:47,030 --> 02:49:45,680
and i mean he had me rolling but i had

4363
02:49:49,510 --> 02:49:47,040
to mute

4364
02:49:50,389 --> 02:49:49,520
i had to back off the mic because he

4365
02:49:54,150 --> 02:49:50,399
he's just

4366
02:49:56,710 --> 02:49:54,160
just a funny guy and he had me

4367
02:49:57,990 --> 02:49:56,720
rolling and and i know he was watching

4368
02:49:59,990 --> 02:49:58,000
that and

4369
02:50:01,830 --> 02:50:00,000
and trying to see i know i know what

4370
02:50:02,550 --> 02:50:01,840
rose he's trying to see if i can keep my

4371
02:50:05,590 --> 02:50:02,560
composure

4372
02:50:08,150 --> 02:50:05,600
he's testing me that was good it was fun

4373
02:50:09,590 --> 02:50:08,160
he knew it let's go back to the phones

4374
02:50:12,230 --> 02:50:09,600
hi you're live on fade to black who's

4375
02:50:20,150 --> 02:50:16,710
hello jenny yes hey go back with chappie

4376
02:50:22,230 --> 02:50:20,160
who's this this is isaiah calling from

4377
02:50:24,309 --> 02:50:22,240
san jose california hey isaiah how are

4378
02:50:26,950 --> 02:50:24,319
you tonight

4379
02:50:30,710 --> 02:50:26,960
i'm doing good about yourself oh after a

4380
02:50:36,389 --> 02:50:33,910
tremendous yeah what

4381
02:50:39,030 --> 02:50:36,399
you know when you hear um are you a

4382
02:50:44,550 --> 02:50:39,040
sports fan

4383
02:50:45,670 --> 02:50:44,560
you've been following roy for years

4384
02:50:49,190 --> 02:50:45,680
right

4385
02:50:52,710 --> 02:50:49,200
and uh to have roy on fade to black

4386
02:50:54,309 --> 02:50:52,720
what'd you think ah it was

4387
02:50:55,060 --> 02:50:54,319
it was pretty good i'm not going to lie

4388
02:51:00,950 --> 02:50:55,070
about that

4389
02:51:04,389 --> 02:51:02,469
sorry i'm trying to deal with the the

4390
02:51:06,710 --> 02:51:04,399
cold here it's just

4391
02:51:08,550 --> 02:51:06,720
my face is cold i actually have a ski

4392
02:51:11,590 --> 02:51:08,560
mask right now

4393
02:51:12,870 --> 02:51:11,600
i'm trying to battle it out really why

4394
02:51:15,190 --> 02:51:12,880
are you outside

4395
02:51:16,309 --> 02:51:15,200
or is the heat on no i'm i'm actually

4396
02:51:19,830 --> 02:51:16,319
inside

4397
02:51:21,830 --> 02:51:19,840
cold

4398
02:51:23,429 --> 02:51:21,840
you're wearing a ski mask in your

4399
02:51:25,750 --> 02:51:23,439
apartment

4400
02:51:26,469 --> 02:51:25,760
absolutely i don't know if that's

4401
02:51:29,510 --> 02:51:26,479
something

4402
02:51:29,830 --> 02:51:29,520
you want to admit to publicly i don't

4403
02:51:34,710 --> 02:51:29,840
know

4404
02:51:35,990 --> 02:51:34,720
facebook live stream right now with the

4405
02:51:38,550 --> 02:51:36,000
face mask you'll freak

4406
02:51:39,910 --> 02:51:38,560
everybody out oh definitely not

4407
02:51:41,910 --> 02:51:39,920
definitely not

4408
02:51:43,750 --> 02:51:41,920
so that is not my intention so what's

4409
02:51:45,349 --> 02:51:43,760
your takeaway what would you learn

4410
02:51:50,309 --> 02:51:45,359
tonight

4411
02:51:51,030 --> 02:51:50,319
completely honest with you i just tuned

4412
02:51:53,910 --> 02:51:51,040
in right now

4413
02:51:54,710 --> 02:51:53,920
because of the whole open line stuff and

4414
02:51:56,710 --> 02:51:54,720
i wanted to

4415
02:51:58,309 --> 02:51:56,720
like ask you like one serious question

4416
02:52:03,750 --> 02:51:58,319
and then one funny question

4417
02:52:06,309 --> 02:52:03,760
okay go so the funny question

4418
02:52:08,469 --> 02:52:06,319
how can i maintain a gangster look like

4419
02:52:12,830 --> 02:52:08,479
you

4420
02:52:18,790 --> 02:52:15,590
gangster yeah oh

4421
02:52:22,710 --> 02:52:18,800
man uh they get

4422
02:52:26,630 --> 02:52:22,720
i achieved my gangsta look by um

4423
02:52:31,110 --> 02:52:26,640
not shaving and and wearing pajamas

4424
02:52:32,630 --> 02:52:31,120
that's that's what i do man i gangsta

4425
02:52:37,910 --> 02:52:32,640
i've been called a lot of things but

4426
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:41,269
look i'm wearing literally um uh

4427
02:52:45,349 --> 02:52:43,040
i've got just an average haircut i'm

4428
02:52:48,070 --> 02:52:45,359
wearing an open minds t-shirt

4429
02:52:49,590 --> 02:52:48,080
i do have some gangsta shoes on though

4430
02:52:53,030 --> 02:52:49,600
are you looking at the camera

4431
02:52:55,990 --> 02:52:53,040
actually

4432
02:52:56,630 --> 02:52:56,000
okay well look i'll i'll do this for the

4433
02:52:59,030 --> 02:52:56,640
audience

4434
02:53:01,670 --> 02:52:59,040
okay i want everybody to look all right

4435
02:53:05,670 --> 02:53:01,680
look at my gangsta shoes

4436
02:53:10,230 --> 02:53:05,680
i am gangsta i got my

4437
02:53:13,349 --> 02:53:10,240
adidas that's gangsta

4438
02:53:14,150 --> 02:53:13,359
that's gangster adidas is immediately

4439
02:53:18,070 --> 02:53:14,160
gangster

4440
02:53:29,670 --> 02:53:18,080
shoes

4441
02:53:33,190 --> 02:53:32,389
jackets too as well and when i'm in the

4442
02:53:35,830 --> 02:53:33,200
mood

4443
02:53:36,870 --> 02:53:35,840
i'll throw it all on at the same time

4444
02:53:39,750 --> 02:53:36,880
the other day

4445
02:53:41,349 --> 02:53:39,760
uh rita and i went out with our daughter

4446
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:41,359
and uh we had some stuff to do in the

4447
02:53:45,190 --> 02:53:42,000
valley

4448
02:53:47,990 --> 02:53:45,200
on on on sunday i'm not making this up

4449
02:53:49,830 --> 02:53:48,000
by the way so rita comes downstairs i'm

4450
02:53:51,349 --> 02:53:49,840
on the i'm on the back patio with our

4451
02:53:54,630 --> 02:53:51,359
daughter deanna

4452
02:54:00,070 --> 02:53:54,640
rita comes out and she's

4453
02:54:05,590 --> 02:54:03,670
wow just full-blown full blown

4454
02:54:08,710 --> 02:54:05,600
and i looked i said honey you look

4455
02:54:11,990 --> 02:54:08,720
absolutely amazing guys

4456
02:54:12,630 --> 02:54:12,000
this is just too much and uh i can't

4457
02:54:16,230 --> 02:54:12,640
wait

4458
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:16,240
to show you off in public wow wow wow

4459
02:54:20,469 --> 02:54:18,800
wheezies the new black ones too yeah

4460
02:54:22,870 --> 02:54:20,479
black wheezing

4461
02:54:24,790 --> 02:54:22,880
give jimmy church a call yeah i know

4462
02:54:27,750 --> 02:54:24,800
right

4463
02:54:28,309 --> 02:54:27,760
okay so what was the other question

4464
02:54:30,870 --> 02:54:28,319
second

4465
02:54:31,990 --> 02:54:30,880
question a little serious might be a

4466
02:54:35,030 --> 02:54:32,000
little funny but

4467
02:54:37,030 --> 02:54:35,040
uh regarding the

4468
02:54:38,389 --> 02:54:37,040
bumper music that you use when you go

4469
02:54:42,150 --> 02:54:38,399
into break and from

4470
02:54:45,349 --> 02:54:42,160
frick i noticed that you sometimes

4471
02:54:48,550 --> 02:54:45,359
have music when it's it's usually a

4472
02:54:49,590 --> 02:54:48,560
guitar solo correct yes or just a wicked

4473
02:54:52,309 --> 02:54:49,600
shred of guitar

4474
02:54:53,910 --> 02:54:52,319
yes and i know you you are a collector

4475
02:54:57,110 --> 02:54:53,920
of guitars

4476
02:55:00,790 --> 02:54:57,120
so i want to know is that you playing or

4477
02:55:04,269 --> 02:55:00,800
smells playing no that is doug aldrich

4478
02:55:07,269 --> 02:55:04,279
um and that album is uh called

4479
02:55:09,830 --> 02:55:07,279
electrovision um you can get it uh

4480
02:55:11,830 --> 02:55:09,840
yeah electrovision by doug aldridge i

4481
02:55:14,150 --> 02:55:11,840
worked on that album

4482
02:55:15,590 --> 02:55:14,160
i think i have a credit i think my

4483
02:55:18,260 --> 02:55:15,600
credit on the album

4484
02:55:21,590 --> 02:55:18,270
is uh

4485
02:55:27,190 --> 02:55:25,670
assistant producer production assistant

4486
02:55:28,870 --> 02:55:27,200
you know something like that but i got a

4487
02:55:29,990 --> 02:55:28,880
credit on the album it's uh it's pretty

4488
02:55:32,710 --> 02:55:30,000
cool i did work on

4489
02:55:33,910 --> 02:55:32,720
it and and and thank you for noticing

4490
02:55:37,429 --> 02:55:33,920
that but yes

4491
02:55:39,830 --> 02:55:37,439
so the tracks that i i've always

4492
02:55:41,429 --> 02:55:39,840
um have used those specific tracks i've

4493
02:55:43,349 --> 02:55:41,439
been thinking about going back and and

4494
02:55:44,870 --> 02:55:43,359
and using some different stuff off that

4495
02:55:48,710 --> 02:55:44,880
album but

4496
02:55:52,309 --> 02:55:48,720
yes i have specifically picked out

4497
02:55:55,750 --> 02:55:52,319
very cool sections there of uh

4498
02:55:58,389 --> 02:55:55,760
of blazing guitar solos so yes oh yeah

4499
02:55:59,510 --> 02:55:58,399
yeah absolutely it is queued up for a

4500
02:56:02,309 --> 02:55:59,520
reason

4501
02:56:03,110 --> 02:56:02,319
and uh yeah yeah yeah maybe i i've been

4502
02:56:06,389 --> 02:56:03,120
thinking about

4503
02:56:08,389 --> 02:56:06,399
uh uh doing some different music

4504
02:56:11,429 --> 02:56:08,399
but still from the same album because

4505
02:56:13,830 --> 02:56:11,439
the album is incredible one of the guys

4506
02:56:14,469 --> 02:56:13,840
that sings on that album his name is ron

4507
02:56:17,590 --> 02:56:14,479
young

4508
02:56:20,950 --> 02:56:17,600
ron is the singer for a band called

4509
02:56:23,910 --> 02:56:20,960
little caesar great man great band

4510
02:56:24,870 --> 02:56:23,920
and uh and he sings on one of the tracks

4511
02:56:28,469 --> 02:56:24,880
and

4512
02:56:31,510 --> 02:56:28,479
uh i was thinking about using that track

4513
02:56:32,150 --> 02:56:31,520
but i think i'm gonna have ron on the

4514
02:56:35,190 --> 02:56:32,160
show

4515
02:56:37,269 --> 02:56:35,200
with me um in a couple of weeks and

4516
02:56:40,150 --> 02:56:37,279
we're trying to line it up right now

4517
02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:40,160
and and get the day done but so when ron

4518
02:56:43,510 --> 02:56:41,200
is on the show

4519
02:56:45,110 --> 02:56:43,520
you'll know and then i'll play some

4520
02:56:47,510 --> 02:56:45,120
other music from the album

4521
02:56:48,550 --> 02:56:47,520
one of those uh tracks he sings on it's

4522
02:56:50,710 --> 02:56:48,560
called trash

4523
02:56:52,309 --> 02:56:50,720
and the fascination so thank you for

4524
02:56:55,030 --> 02:56:52,319
noticing that isaiah

4525
02:56:57,349 --> 02:56:55,040
and uh there you go all right doug

4526
02:56:59,670 --> 02:56:57,359
aldridge electrovision

4527
02:57:01,510 --> 02:56:59,680
awesome thank you because the few times

4528
02:57:03,670 --> 02:57:01,520
where i've heard it i actually

4529
02:57:05,750 --> 02:57:03,680
uh i spoke to my brother and i because

4530
02:57:07,990 --> 02:57:05,760
him and i are also big fans

4531
02:57:09,110 --> 02:57:08,000
uh we were wondering like if that's

4532
02:57:11,429 --> 02:57:09,120
jimmy

4533
02:57:12,309 --> 02:57:11,439
damn he's really good at playing guitar

4534
02:57:14,230 --> 02:57:12,319
no that's doug

4535
02:57:15,349 --> 02:57:14,240
aldrich and you're not the only person

4536
02:57:18,230 --> 02:57:15,359
to say that and

4537
02:57:20,389 --> 02:57:18,240
and think that and and that's really

4538
02:57:22,870 --> 02:57:20,399
cool but there's just no way

4539
02:57:24,550 --> 02:57:22,880
i can take credit for that no it's doug

4540
02:57:27,269 --> 02:57:24,560
aldrich and it's amazing

4541
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:27,279
and uh yeah so there you go it's called

4542
02:57:31,110 --> 02:57:28,560
electro vision

4543
02:57:32,309 --> 02:57:31,120
um one day i'll play some of my music on

4544
02:57:35,910 --> 02:57:32,319
the air i think i've done it

4545
02:57:36,550 --> 02:57:35,920
a couple of times but but i'll do it

4546
02:57:38,950 --> 02:57:36,560
isaiah

4547
02:57:40,550 --> 02:57:38,960
enjoy your night man and and thank you

4548
02:57:42,150 --> 02:57:40,560
so much

4549
02:57:43,830 --> 02:57:42,160
thank you now i'm going to go sit back

4550
02:57:45,429 --> 02:57:43,840
and try to warm myself up with some

4551
02:57:46,309 --> 02:57:45,439
river moon coffee that's what i'm

4552
02:57:48,630 --> 02:57:46,319
talking about

4553
02:57:50,070 --> 02:57:48,640
it's the only thing that works for me

4554
02:57:52,870 --> 02:57:50,080
isaiah we'll see you tomorrow

4555
02:57:54,309 --> 02:57:52,880
night all right have a good night jimmy

4556
02:57:56,550 --> 02:57:54,319
you too man

4557
02:57:57,670 --> 02:57:56,560
rita just said what are weezies i don't

4558
02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:57,680
know what are those shows

4559
02:58:02,230 --> 02:57:59,359
what are those shoes called aren't they

4560
02:58:04,630 --> 02:58:02,240
called wheezies i don't know

4561
02:58:05,349 --> 02:58:04,640
i don't know but that shows you how

4562
02:58:08,230 --> 02:58:05,359
gangsta

4563
02:58:09,349 --> 02:58:08,240
i am i don't know i don't know the name

4564
02:58:11,670 --> 02:58:09,359
of those shoes but

4565
02:58:13,269 --> 02:58:11,680
what a great show tonight thank you uh

4566
02:58:15,870 --> 02:58:13,279
to roy firestone

4567
02:58:17,590 --> 02:58:15,880
roy's links are over at

4568
02:58:21,429 --> 02:58:17,600
jimmychurchradio.com

4569
02:58:23,110 --> 02:58:21,439
and uh his his books are right there the

4570
02:58:25,990 --> 02:58:23,120
amazon stuff is there

4571
02:58:27,349 --> 02:58:26,000
head over to roy firestone.com also you

4572
02:58:30,389 --> 02:58:27,359
can follow roy

4573
02:58:32,790 --> 02:58:30,399
on twitter at roy firestone

4574
02:58:33,990 --> 02:58:32,800
and then go chase him down over there on

4575
02:58:35,750 --> 02:58:34,000
facebook

4576
02:58:37,670 --> 02:58:35,760
all right what a great show we've got

4577
02:58:41,590 --> 02:58:37,680
tomorrow night

4578
02:58:42,870 --> 02:58:41,600
yeah we've got zadok ra osiris

4579
02:58:44,710 --> 02:58:42,880
with this tomorrow night you're not

4580
02:58:46,550 --> 02:58:44,720
going to want to miss that

4581
02:58:48,070 --> 02:58:46,560
very special thanks to rory firestone

4582
02:58:49,910 --> 02:58:48,080
what a great conversation tonight fade

4583
02:58:51,750 --> 02:58:49,920
to black's executive producer

4584
02:58:53,990 --> 02:58:51,760
is rita comerian shows produced by

4585
02:58:56,230 --> 02:58:54,000
hilton j palmer renee dennis and kevin

4586
02:58:57,030 --> 02:58:56,240
announcers are steve harder gene vettel

4587
02:58:59,830 --> 02:58:57,040
and mark d

4588
02:59:00,150 --> 02:58:59,840
kovar webmaster is drew the geek music

4589
02:59:02,910 --> 02:59:00,160
doug

4590
02:59:04,710 --> 02:59:02,920
aldridge intro spaceboy

4591
02:59:06,790 --> 02:59:04,720
spaceboymusic.com faded black is

4592
02:59:07,590 --> 02:59:06,800
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4593
02:59:11,670 --> 02:59:07,600
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4594
02:59:14,150 --> 02:59:11,680
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4595
02:59:15,750 --> 02:59:14,160
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4596
02:59:16,630 --> 02:59:15,760
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4597
02:59:18,469 --> 02:59:16,640
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4598
02:59:19,990 --> 02:59:18,479
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4599
02:59:20,630 --> 02:59:20,000
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4600
02:59:22,309 --> 02:59:20,640
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4601
02:59:23,830 --> 02:59:22,319
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4602
02:59:25,030 --> 02:59:23,840
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4603
02:59:27,349 --> 02:59:25,040
your host jimmy church

4604
02:59:29,030 --> 02:59:27,359
we'll see everybody right here tomorrow

4605
02:59:43,760 --> 02:59:29,040
night until then

4606
03:00:19,830 --> 02:59:43,770
be safe fade to black